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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:38 pm 
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Lets just hope Gysberts doesn have a blinder again and McLean doesn be average game again....
Why :?

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:38 pm 
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Murphy Gibbs and Judd play better when Maclean is in same can be said with Hadley

I want both in every week


Agree.


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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:42 pm 
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Another game not on TV in WA.... the last 2 not on TV over here we have lost by 50+ points :eek:

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:00 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Murphy Gibbs and Judd play better when Maclean is in same can be said with Hadley

I want both in every week

I think Hadley did very little after the first quarter. McLean I was happy enough with.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:01 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
Elusive Turtle wrote:
Lets just hope Gysberts doesn have a blinder again and McLean doesn be average game again....
Why :?



Cos i believe pick 11 in last years draft would of proven more valuable than wat McLean has shown thus far.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:21 pm 
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I'm fairly confident Grigg will get a run next week. Ratts has been saying he'd like to get him in the team, and it sounds like he played a good game for the Bullants.

I have a feeling that last week has shown Ratts that he needs to experiment to find the best clearance combination. Today he went MacLean and Hadley. But I'd expect to see him rotate Grigg and Ellard (if he can be promoted) through these roles in the upcoming 'winnable' games.


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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:30 pm 
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Elusive Turtle wrote:
teagueyubeauty wrote:
Elusive Turtle wrote:
Lets just hope Gysberts doesn have a blinder again and McLean doesn be average game again....
Why :?



Cos i believe pick 11 in last years draft would of proven more valuable than wat McLean has shown thus far.

I like McLean becos he doesnt afraid of hard contests.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Cos i believe pick 11 in last years draft would of proven more valuable than wat McLean has shown thus far.[/quote]
I like McLean becos he doesnt afraid of hard contests.[/quote]

Has he done enough to warrant a the loss of a first round selection?

I expected instant impact, he has been less than impressive, his disposal or lack there of.

What has he done that hadley couldn of?

We could be blooding another kid, maybe a KPF prospect as well as Lucas.

Its a done deal obviously and would love it if McLean steps it up and proves me wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 9:57 pm 
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I suspect this McLean/Gysberts business will be going on all year, and for the next few years, much like the Yarran/Rich debate. We could be blooding another kid, but we also needed another mature body in the midfield.

I don't blame the club for going down the McLean path, because we could have either a kid playing in the midfield and copping an absolute battering each week and our midfield too, OR, we could have no protection through the midfield and have the likes of Judd, Gibbs, and Murphy copping a shellacking every week. The club didn't exactly take a stab in the dark with McLean...he knows his role and he's being paid to do it. We're only ten weeks into the season, and Brock has played a handful of games. Gysberts plays ONE good game, and suddenly we should have taken him instead.

Only time will tell who wins the trade. But the question I want answered is, where would Gysberts have fit into OUR line-up? McLean has a role of protecting the midfielders, and while Gysberts played the inside midfielder role in the TAC Cup, he would have taken a few years to emerge as an AFL player. I don't think the club were willing to wait 2, 3, even 4 years for the protection in the midfield to come, and fair enough too. I would rather some experienced players giving protection and prolonging the careers of our superstars, rather than a raw 18 year old gradually developing into that role while he and our midfield copped a beating along the way. Brock has the age and maturity on his side which is what fits our team. Melbourne on the other hand are a younger side than us, not quite a finals team yet and have the luxury of having a couple of years up their sleeves to develop players into key roles.

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Hate this club! We need to beat them
They took tanking and cheating to new levels last year. Helped them amass an incredible array of talent. And all and sundry just wax lyrical about how great they have gone with their recruiting while we have just cheated our way to our list! :roll:

Sh!ts me to tears!

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:10 pm 
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AJ on Davey! Can't wait!

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PostPosted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:32 pm 
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Not sure what some of you were watching today.

McLean gets the ball from the Tap-in and holds onto it. Will release when option is available. Timing was off as he hasn't played for a while. Last year opposition would have taken the ball away from Carazzo. Carrazo now does the run-with tagging role, which will release Houlihan forward when he plays.

Next week we will make some changes as more experience players become available.

Waite - In.

Anderson - Out

Others may have to wait a few weeks. I would be keen on gving Warnock another chance and giving Jacobs a chance to freshen up with 2 weeks off. Hamer to get Ruck in 2nds. This will maximise our Ruck stock going into the 2nd half of the year.


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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:15 am 
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marciblue wrote:
Hate this club! We need to beat them
They took tanking and cheating to new levels last year. Helped them amass an incredible array of talent. And all and sundry just wax lyrical about how great they have gone with their recruiting while we have just cheated our way to our list! :roll:

Sh!ts me to tears!

I hate them too. But in a different way. 2000 QF still hurts :cry:

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:28 am 
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jimmae wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Murphy Gibbs and Judd play better when Maclean is in same can be said with Hadley

I want both in every week

I think Hadley did very little after the first quarter. McLean I was happy enough with.


It's funny how we (posters') can differ with our opinions after watching the same game.

Not saying I'm right and you're wrong, but I think the opposite.

I think the 9 tackles McLean made on the wekend flatters him.

I think he's a bit of a 'loaf', and isn't very creative>
If anything imo Brock slows us down with his lack of leg speed and with his preference to hold the ball up.
Just as I always thought (and witnessed) Hadley is a smart player.
I watched with a really keen eye on the little things Hadley did to get the ball out to the next player as opposed to Brock's incling to hold the ball up and locking it in.

If there was a choice of only one of McLean and Hadley in the side, I'd take Hadley at this moment.
Given we are playing McLean's old team this weekend, I think he should be playing for obvious reasons.

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:37 am 
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jimmae wrote:
So many injuries in the mix, might have to wait until the dust settles before changes can be properly conceived. Scotland probably out for a few at the minimum.

Personally I want to turf Anderson & Hadley out of the team first and foremost, but Browne & McLean are not far behind.

Henderson will have to go out of the side for Waite. Grigg, Houla, Yarran, Armfield, Johnson, Hampson, Davies & Kerr all genuinely in the selection mix.

I'm predicting four or five changes as of now.

For mine:

In: Houla, Yarran, Armfield, Waite
Out: Scotland, Hadley, Anderson, Henderson


I wouldn't be dropping Hendo for Waite. I think Hendo's coming good and is building his confidence nicely. For me Thornton is the only certain out. Think you are rough on Ando as well - he was good yesterday. Where have you heard that Scotland will miss a few at least? I heard it was just a bruised shin, he’ll be a little sore but fine for next week…?


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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:38 am 
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hendo wrote:
interesting stat.

no team has won in 2010 (the following week) after playing geelong.


Yeah but Melbourne didn't even try against Geelong this week!


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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:52 am 
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ins: waite bower houla

out: thornton anderson & ????



HENDERSON!!!

I cant see what this bloke offers us

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 9:53 am 
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OUTS: Mclean, Henderson and Anderson
IN: Waite, Bower and Houla

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:03 am 
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hollywood43 wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
ins: waite bower houla

out: thornton anderson & ????



HENDERSON!!!

I cant see what this bloke offers us


He's a kid. A work in progress. Like all kids he's learning his craft against huge seasoned AFL footballers, whilst he too fills out.

He is such a hard working big man, he can't see how he can fail when he's fully developed.

KP tall, fast, leads at the ball, draws the ball, good on the ground, can mark, can kick goals, developing on par with JK.

Did you rate JK when he was with CFC?
Do you rate JK now that he's at WCE?

If there was choice between Waite and Hendo, I'd take Waite for sure.
Maybe that's where you are coming from (?), but I'm answering your question, which has no reference to Waite.

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:04 am 
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Aaron Davey is the man we MUST stop! AJ come on down!!!

This wont be an easy game, these blokes like to run. I think we will get up just, given the ins ( Waite, Bower i hope and Houla ) good solid players.
Watch Juddy cut loose at the G! He loves playing on the MCG! He will be the difference

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