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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:49 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Havent even seen the game but going by the stats


Con - Setanta kicking 5 means i will have to put up with watching him in Blue for a few more weeks



You haven't seen the game and you come up with this. Very sad.
So you can't find a positive in a bloke who has kicked 17 goals after 6 games?
I think you'll appreciate what Setanta did today when you watch the game.
Until there's someone better on our list we have to love the one we've got in Setanta.
What do you want 2 Henderson's learning their craft at FF and CHF? You'll be more than disappointed.
Cheer up



He is bad footballer dont care what you all think -I have watched this game all my life and he is close to the worst footballer to play 50 plus games in the navy blue and whilst the club continues to persist with the likes of him we aint going no where - We will not win a flag with this guy as a KP target up forward -So whilst he is there dont expect it

Ask yourself how may he would have kicked if Presti had played


SB. Best you stop now before you look really silly. Were you at the game ?? I think not.


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:51 pm 
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Mclean is a real worry. He is so slow, not just in terms of running, but also in terms of disposing of the footy. Every time he got it in packs he couldn't dish it off, just got tackled. I think we made a blunder giving up pick 11 for this guy. Could have taken another Mid at 11 to go with Lucas.
And Henderson had a shocker. Poor fwd and also back. Then dragged. He has given us very little and yes he is young but for the time being he isn;t doing enough and so should be given a spell and Waite comes in.

A decision needs to be made on White too. Pods could have kicked a bag on him last week, and he was beaten today too. Maybe Thornton comes in until walks is back.


lewis jetta went at 13 - blue sombrero spews every time he sees jetta play as he reckons we should have taken him



Just what we need another front running soft cock -

we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team we need more hard nuts to many soft out side mids in this team and i cannot understand why blokes like Grigg and Hadley cant get a game -We should havee played this game like the Saints did on friday night but we went soft in a shoot out
To many soft cocks at Carlton

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:52 pm 
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Re` Mclean, probably not one of his better games but still does heaps of blocking shepherding etc that you see at the game and miss on tv. Need his experience out there. Out of interest who did Melb` take with that pick?


I was at the game PPW and if you saw any positives whatsoever in McLean's game you are a way more generous person than me. I can't recall any effective blocks. He is just way too slow. He looked like a guy who is a good VFL player who suddenly finds himself in an AFL game. It was like watching a sleep walker cross a freeway. Everyone else went roaring past and he kept looking surprised. He was so far off the mark it is not funny.

Don't know who Melbourne took but we would have taken Lucas at #11 and then maybe Talia or whoever we rated next best. On today's form we could have drafted a sack of cement and we wouldn't have been far behind. McLean needs to be very good for what we gave up for him. If he turns out to be just okay and comparable with AB (and I would have much rathered AB there today at least he would have had 10 tackles) then it is a disastrous pick.

If he survives to next week it will only be because Hadley and Grigg are injured. He needs a huge game.


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:55 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team


Geez Sydney have you completely lost the plot? Any more in the team like McLean and we would have lost by 100 points. I suggest you watch the game before you comment further.


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:59 pm 
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Pro

- Armfield is in superb form
- JR's courageous mark in the final qtr, although he appeared sore after it.
- Murphy's use of the ball...this year he has mastered the sidestep/backward step to make space as soon as he gets posession
- Setanta. Big fan.
- We had a real dip...although the margin was greater I'm nowhere near as gutted as after the Ess loss.
- Ratts moves were good I thought

Con

- Hendo struggled, although in fairness to him he got a knock in the first 5 min & may have been affected
- Tackling, not as good as last week

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:16 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team


Geez Sydney have you completely lost the plot? Any more in the team like McLean and we would have lost by 100 points. I suggest you watch the game before you comment further.


He's lost the plot alright, apparently we should play another player other than O'hAilpin even if that player isn't as good because O'hAilpin is an experiment and experiments are never any good. :screwy:

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:17 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team


Geez Sydney have you completely lost the plot? Any more in the team like McLean and we would have lost by 100 points. I suggest you watch the game before you comment further.



we have to many out side players gerry not enough prepared to get down and dirty
we are relying on Joseph Judd and Maclean and Scotland

Carrazo- Gibbs Murph Simmo Betts Garlett Houlihan Yarren Russell- not hard enough in the clinches

Need to get tougher and play anti social football

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:19 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team


Geez Sydney have you completely lost the plot? Any more in the team like McLean and we would have lost by 100 points. I suggest you watch the game before you comment further.


He's lost the plot alright, apparently we should play another player other than O'hailpin even if he's not as good because O'hailpin is an experiment and experiments are never any good. :screwy:



yes thats right but your the so called recruiting expert I just watch whats dished up each week

taken nearly 6-7 years to produce a 5 goal game just brilliant


Tell me Waite is not better

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:19 pm 
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Sydney Blue you are a complete twitt. Watch the game or shut up...
in terms of effort Setanta was inspirational today, next to judd our best...not many players who are as bad as you suggest would have claim to that... reading your post's are a real bore, p*ss off


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:21 pm 
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P.P Blues wrote:
Sydney Blue you are a complete twitt. Watch the game or shut up...
in terms of effort Setanta was inspirational today, next to judd our best...not many players who are as bad as you suggest would have claim to that... reading your post's are a real bore, p*ss off



dont read them it really doesnt worry me what you think

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:29 pm 
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if you are not concerned at the response your drivel illicits then why post it?

I agree with a few of the sentiments posted on this thread and others, there are carltron supporters, and those who bask in our loosing


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:36 pm 
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Pros: That 3rd until about 7 minutes to go.
Setanta - hasn't a clue, and then has. :grin: Thing is, he needs a big bloke near him who can mark, give him that and he'll kick even more.
Judd/Murph.
Lucas - bloody good get
Con: The rest
Maclean - I do not care how slow he is running wise, but @#$%&! he is slow thinking wise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This had better get better or forget him.
Houla - can people not write articles about him. he needs to feel his position is on the line.
Sauce - Give me Warnock.

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:38 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
He's lost the plot alright, apparently we should play another player other than O'hailpin even if he's not as good because O'hailpin is an experiment and experiments are never any good. :screwy:



yes thats right but your the so called recruiting expert I just watch whats dished up each week

taken nearly 6-7 years to produce a 5 goal game just brilliant


Tell me Waite is not better


Maybe not but at this stage he is better than Henderson. At the moment he’s the second best tall forward we’ve got and that may be sad but you seem to make him your little project for abuse. It sounds like you have this out of date 'keep it basic’ mindset going on and that does not work with modern football.

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:53 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team


Geez Sydney have you completely lost the plot? Any more in the team like McLean and we would have lost by 100 points. I suggest you watch the game before you comment further.


In SB's world we need more McLeans, less Setantas and more Griggs.
Obviously living in Jerry's bizarro world

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 9:55 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
Mclean is a real worry. He is so slow, not just in terms of running, but also in terms of disposing of the footy. Every time he got it in packs he couldn't dish it off, just got tackled. I think we made a blunder giving up pick 11 for this guy. Could have taken another Mid at 11 to go with Lucas.
And Henderson had a shocker. Poor fwd and also back. Then dragged. He has given us very little and yes he is young but for the time being he isn;t doing enough and so should be given a spell and Waite comes in.

A decision needs to be made on White too. Pods could have kicked a bag on him last week, and he was beaten today too. Maybe Thornton comes in until walks is back.


lewis jetta went at 13 - blue sombrero spews every time he sees jetta play as he reckons we should have taken him



Just what we need another front running soft cock -

we lose games like this because there isnt more players like Maclean in the team we need more hard nuts to many soft out side mids in this team and i cannot understand why blokes like Grigg and Hadley cant get a game -We should havee played this game like the Saints did on friday night but we went soft in a shoot out
To many soft cocks at Carlton

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:11 pm 
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P.P Blues wrote:
Sydney Blue you are a complete twitt. Watch the game or shut up...
in terms of effort Setanta was inspirational today, next to judd our best...not many players who are as bad as you suggest would have claim to that... reading your post's are a real bore, p*ss off


+1. And Waite as a key forward ?? Has he ever even looked like being one ?


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:38 pm 
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CONS:
our % has dropped from 126 to 108 in one WEEK!
We've been comprehensively smashed by both our arch rivals :mad:

INSIPED
GUTLESS
NOT F****N good enough!

Ratts needs to pump these games up...not talk them down! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:52 pm 
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Pro's
The Skipper of course
Irish has had a fantastic season to date. Just watch him keep his feet in a contest. One of the few to do so.
Peter Motley was sitting nearby and this brought to mind his stellar season in 1986. For those of you old enough to remember he was the new Doull. Amazing vertical leap and sublime by foot. We will never know what we lost when the crash occurred. Fantastic to see him up and about though.
Wifey was veey happy................as they say...........happy wife happy life!!!!

Con's
Is it just me or does Marc Murphy have no defensive side to his game? I have been watching him closely for the last two weeks and his opponents treat him with impunity when they have the ball. I have lost count of the missed tackles and the chases Murph has given up on. He is way behind Gibbs this season when last season it was the other way around.
We are a long way off!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:26 pm 
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Con

Getting back to my car at the train station and seeing Collingwood ferals vandalized my car, targeting my membership sticker and pouring shit all over my car (i really hope it wasn't urine). and because I got a super early train to the game and the first train home it must have been before the game.

Classy bunch hey.


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 Post subject: Re: R6 - Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:10 am 
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Pros:

Judd
SETANT
JR again
Fightback was fun while it lasted
Bower great game on return

Cons:

Mclean is rubbish
Henderson ditto
Gave up at the end and let them pile on junk goals, dont care what some of you on here say, 53 points was flattering for them, 5-6 goals would have been a fair indication of the gap between the teams

Major con:

Made ridiculous bets on this game with Pies fans, none of them involving money, rather public humiliation :donk:


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