Maybe Yarran, Betts, Gartlett and Santie could be the 3 muskateers since they always had that fourth dude who was a kindofa stand out.

Better than some of the nicknames I've heard touted around for the 3 indigenous players, that's for sure..

Pros
-Judd, just a pleasure to watch him play.
-Setanta great effort.
-3rd qrt showed what we are capable of.

Cons
-Not switched on first half.
-Continue to concede goals right at the end of qrts`.
-Always asleep after breaks.
-Why do we have Carazzo delivering to the forwards? Gibbs ordinary in this area as well today.



Re` Mclean, probably not one of his better games but still does heaps of blocking shepherding etc that you see at the game and miss on tv. Need his experience out there. Out of interest who did Melb` take with that pick?

Pros
We lost to a very good side BUT I am hoping more than anyone that the pies are peaking early and they can't maintain this for the rest of the season. Please please please

Cons
Tackling

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St Kilda and Geelong are really good.

Collingwood are good, but there's something missing with the Pies that makes me think they won't go all the way.

They lack hardness and pace.

Davis doesn't play smart football.

Havent even seen the game but going by the stats

Con - to much handball
Con - Setanta kicking 5 means i will have to put up with watching him in Blue for a few more weeks
Con _ we Lost
Con it was the same margin as the last time we played them
Con - half the competition goes into lock down footy and we go into a shoot out and we always lose shot outs

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Collingwood are a great team [yuk] they dont have any individual brilliant players bar Didak Davis & Shaw but they have 15 blue collar work horses that are drilled by a damn good coach...

PROS
-Setanta
-Our fight back in the third- just so thrilling to watch.
-Ben Reid- can anyone explain to me why this guy was a top ten pick in the Bryce Gibbs super draft, cos I can't see it.
-Mick Malthouse's stubborness keeping Reid on Setanta helped us.
-Judd, as always

CONS
-Mental lapses, we proved we could keep up with them and catch up with the Pies, but the drop off in intensity in the second quarter cost us the game.
-Too few doing too much.
-Indecisiveness when in possession played right into the Pies hands, giving them time to mega-flood back.
-Lack of a second tall target hurt us big time.
-Brock McLean had shocker.
-Henderson looks in need of a rest, mentally and physically.
-I know it goes without saying but what bush league did those umpires come. Thankfully their random and occassionally bizarre decision making didn't impact the result.

Pros
Setanta is playing some very good footy. Deserved his bag. That diving mark and quick-thinking play on sparked the comeback.
When we're running and pressuring we are seriously able to kick multiple goals in a hurry.
Judd was enormous, Jordan Russell again very good.
Armfield's run.
Gibbs in the middle.

Cons
Far too cute at the selection table.
Waite would have been handy as a target/on Dawes. Robinson's endeavour was missed.
I'm not sold on White. Henderson needs to learn to hold a mark.
McLean's effort v Ball's effort (and didn't they get him in the 30s?) Carrazzo's effort. Need more from our senior players on days like today.
The three amigos are one too many some weeks.
Kreuzer looks to be going at 80%. Carrying an injury?
Pies look like serious contenders.

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Dut, de dut, de daaa!

Great teams don't fold against the Saints minus Riewoldt and fail to kick a goal in a half.

Another game ala Essendon* v Carlton that will fool everyone that the Pies are the real deal.

Setanta kicked five goals against them.

Brown and Reid do nothing for me.

Con: Can't beat the Scum or the filth. Hope we don't get the trifecta (Aints) or the quaddy (Dawks)

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They are way ahead of us

Pros;
Judd
Setants
Bower's return
Josephs job on Davis
Midfield when on song were elite

Cons
Midfield when not on song- They ran it out with ease a fair bit
Hendo- failed forward & Back, needs to find form in the Ants
McLean- a waste, adds nothing bentick didnt...has the smarts to get the ball but cant get it out to the runners which is whats needed of him, constantly got caught. Bring in Hadley ASAP
Over-usage
Basic skill errors, costly.
done the hardwork to get back into it twice but failed to maintain/keep pressure throughout

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The climbing has alread began

Your more than welcome to go through the history of my posts if you like. I'll always give credit to JR when it's due.

True, I've been massive critic of his for a while, but this year he is looking settled - and good on him!

But there are some supporters in here that are so he'll bent on seeing setanta fail that will never give him the credit he deserves. Much like Sydney blues post above me - suggesting he'll now have to put up with watching setanta in blue fit a few weeks is be a bad thing.

Setanta gives 110% each and everytime he goes at the footy. Players like that can make mistakes but I don't care because their dedication and determination FAR outway anything that soft and gutless half-assed players do!

He has heart.......... And there are a few players that can take inspiration from that.


Back on JR......... I think he's our best choice for kick outs this year. Massive improvement on last year - good on him! Good to see!

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Pro's JR, Army, just get better by the week
Setanta.

Con's They showed us how to maintain constant pressure for longer periods than us and most of all HOW TO PROTECT THE BALL CARRIER when they have the ball.

SB................bad call big time. Was there today, he was one of the few guys who played 4 quarters and kept us in it. Great game. Sheesh 5.1 and did well in the air and on the ground. He just needs support. Hendo is SH#HOUSE......big time.

You haven't seen the game and you come up with this. Very sad.
So you can't find a positive in a bloke who has kicked 17 goals after 6 games?
I think you'll appreciate what Setanta did today when you watch the game.
Until there's someone better on our list we have to love the one we've got in Setanta.
What do you want 2 Henderson's learning their craft at FF and CHF? You'll be more than disappointed.
Cheer up

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He is bad footballer dont care what you all think -I have watched this game all my life and he is close to the worst footballer to play 50 plus games in the navy blue and whilst the club continues to persist with the likes of him we aint going no where - We will not win a flag with this guy as a KP target up forward -So whilst he is there dont expect it

Ask yourself how may he would have kicked if Presti had played

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lewis jetta went at 13 - blue sombrero spews every time he sees jetta play as he reckons we should have taken him

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one you knock back is one you never have

and how many if SOS had played? or geoff southby or george ferry

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+1 was our best with Judd, never stopped presenting and ran all day.

One of the cons for me was it's a Carlton home game and at half time there are 2 Collingwood mascots running the boundary having photo's and Hi 5's with the Feral offspring and no Captain Carlton. What gives with that???????

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