FFS this has got to be joke !
Keep winning games, smash Essendon* the next time round, that will shut up people.
Articles on back of one good win are a bit rich.
The amateur hour at club continues...

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Scott, things aren't as happy as they used to be down here at the unemployment office. Joblessness is no longer just for Philosophy majors - useful people are starting to feel the pinch.

I think even the Hawks say that success came earlier than they hoped. But before the success there was the pain. And the supporters at the time didn't like the pain and the game plan and many wanted the Coaches head on a stick.

Likewise Thompson was on the chopping block in the eyes of many supporters before he finally got it right and the players got stuck in. I have read Harley saying about the turn around, that it was the players who did the soul searching and finally got their heads right.

The year the Hawks won it they had a fabulous year in many, many aspects. Roughy, Buddy and Williams were unstoppable. Mitchell, Sewell and Hodge brilliant leaders. Many stood up and they got the results. Their game plan threw most for a loop. Now it doens't.

No doubt good players can make Coaches look good. We have already discussed that Judd makes Ratts look good as does the Roo for his Coach, Ablett for his and Brown for his. Every successful Coach needs his A graders to make his plan work the full 120 minutes. Every success ful Coach needs his players to be able to physically play the game plan for a 120 minutes. That means many years of building up small bodies to take the punishment and to run the miles required at the intensity required.

Coaches are earning big dollars to make it all work over a 5 year period with many ups and downs along the way.

Ratts is no different to anyone else that has come before.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

FOR GOD'S SAKE, GET THE BLOODY THING AND KICK IT LONG TO FEVOLA!

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Funny that the jury remains out, after 2 decent wins, yet one loss would seal his fate for some.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Sorry Ryan, you've lost me there. What was the "Gibbs move"?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

you put your left hand in....

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Don't shut this thread down yet - I just got involved .

C'sman - I don't get why you're so upset about people getting fired up about footy. Sure they go over the top and ring SEN and start threads like this - but so what? Footy's a passionate game and the passion is all part of the fun.

If you can't handle being an AFL coach and being criticised, go and work in the commentary box at channel 10.

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um, so isn't Caz showing his passion? Or is there only negative passion at the coach allowed?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

That would be the move that has been used many times before and has been used by some just as many times to prove that Ratts can't coach

Very true I guess.

Probably much the same as posting on TC. Sadly many passionate arguments on here are often based on anger and frustration and not on the actual facts of the matter. If those angry and frustrated people don't want to have the facts explained to them well...........................

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Ratts moving Gibbs across Half Back in the Geelong game.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

Anyone got an idea of what clauses are in Ratts contract at the end of 2010?

Ummm....Setanta Clauses?

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If only Ratts had thought of that before, we might have won more games

Gibbs has played half back several times this season.
In fact, several posters were complaining about Gibbs playing half back earlier this season and blaming Ratten for his stupidity!

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I agree.
I can see why the club would be frustrated with those that don’t know how to deal with a loss and go and throw tantrums on radio and on here as they go about throwing their ridiculous theories around about the coaching but I don’t think writing articles like this is the answer.

Would be better off keeping their heads down and bums up letting results do the talking. The sooks will soon catch on .those that say the coach isn't good enough because the club didn’t appoint him in a way they liked will soon pull their heads in and say " always said I would be happy to eat humble pie" to try and make themselves feel better for embarrassing themselves after losses over the years.

I am sure Ratts isnt happy with the article.

Wasn't Gibbs on one of Chapman or Bartel?

He's been playing deep in midfield all season.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Nail on the head.

Some posters harp on about Hughesy and the crew for their recruiting. Some harp on about the coach not being able to coach. When other posters defend Ratts and Co, they get accused of being too precious and protective of the club.

Seems the negative posters don't understand that it works both ways.

Cazzasman, I was one of those incensed supporters after the Dons game and although I was perplexed as to the game plan I was exasperated as to Rats seemingly total lack of accountability for his part on the loss - go back to his presser they are the facts.

The buck needs to stop at the boss but Rats avoided responsibility and blamed his tools (the players) – and what about that latest ridiculous CarltonFC article after two wins?

Our Presidents appalling handling of the media, the Fev incidents and the booze cruise fracas shows me that maybe ‘lack of responsibility’ is endemic throughout our club.

Our supporters are very excited about the obvious abundant talent within the playing group – I understand you played a significant part in that so take a bow - but I worry that the management group from the top down seems mediocre and may well squander this list before it gets a chance to shine.

It is all very ‘un-Carlton’.

I guess one question I wonder hopefully about is : has/are Leading Teams making any impact?

Do you really think anything gets said at an after game press conference that means anything. The coaches just do what it takes to get it done. No coach will sit there and talk about the things they did wrong. Who would expect them to?

Watch the cats game and watch the dons game again. If you cant see the difference between the players efforts then you have lost the plot.