Yeah, it's hard to know who to barrack for in that one

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I think we play our best footy when we are looking to kick goals or behind in a game why when we are winning we start to play tempo footy? ok play it for 5 mins or so but we still need to look to sscore whilst doing it. I blame ratten for this. We were lucky crows didnt punish whilst we were doing it, once they were within 4 goals we went back to playing attraactive football. If we are up against geelong and decidde to play tempo they will cut us up.
Go Blue boys i have faith
I hope Bower is back he is brillian!

Not sure why we keeping going on about tempo footy.

The ball going up doesn't always mean that.

We scored a few goals in red time on Saturday.

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Ok so you enjoy it when we play tempo footy and the other team scores 3 maybe 4 goals unanswered. You know how i know it means tempo when they put the ball in the air cause after they do it the play tempo mate lol. Like i said do it constructivley and for short periods not for a quarter or a half of footy.

not sure why people would want to drop white?
-the cats have moons, pods, the hawk and ottens.
-if bower is still out and, waite and thornton don't return [don't think they should] and we drop white, how the F$#%$##K are we going to stop there forward line!!!!!!!!!
-white did more than enough to hold he's spot, as did lucas!!!!!!!!!!!!

Drop Setanta the best thing I have read on this site to date!

I don't believe Thornton is up to it. He is too slow and not tall enough or good enough to play key position. He's too slow to play on small/medium forwards and he can't play key position. We carry him, he's a liability. We are trying to build a fast rebounding defence with run and he doesn't fit into that. It's very hard to find a match up for him week in week out and with Jamison back, Bower and Austin when they return and White looking like being a real find I think his time at Carlton is up unless he makes it as a forward which I find it hard to see happening. He just leaks far too many goals and his kicking is not great and it is time for us to move on.

Waite is touch and go for the Geelong game. If Bower is not ready he will play. Geelong have 3 big forwards we need to cover. I think we can bring in Waite if there is no Bower and play Waite on Podsiadley. If things aren't working we can swap Setanta and Waite around.

The other thing is Mclean. Will he be ready? If so who do we drop? To beat Geelong you need to beat them in the midfield and you need to out run them. Their weakest part of their game ATM is their pace. Dropping Lucas for Mclean contradicts this. Lucas has great smarts, pace and disposal and looks mentally mature.

I think Robinson will be dropped for Bower/Waite. I think that we might not get to see AJ V Ablett. AJ is struggling and you don't want a player who is not 100% playing on Ablett. Scotland would be a good match up for Ablett and giving Lucas a go at him could be valuble expierence. Mclean in AJ out maybe?

Wow, great first post mate, outstanding read!

We're a chance, but we're going to have to come out and from the first bounce we're going to need to pressure pressure pressure the Cats. We really cant give them an inch. If they get the time and space to use the ball by foot they will destroy us. there the best users of the ball by foot I have ever seen. Deadly accurate. If we can trip them up early and give them the shakes and persist with the pressure theres no reason we cant cause an upset here.

I noticed that too.

I'm not sure what the ball held up means anymore.

Does it mean tempo, or
I'm pooped and so is the backline so we need to regroup, or
We need to keep possession, or
now for plan B towards the goals, lets take them by surprise, or
what?

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It's probably Levi Casboult. Levi, I think we'd probably need another long-term injury before you could be elevated to the senior squad.

Seems it could mean any of those things.
They hold the ball up at training. When i saw that i thought it indicated they that the opposition zone is set and they had to hold their nerve and pass it around and work to create options to get up the ground.
I have seen it work prenty this year with us often creating chances to score after holding the ball up. I have also seen the obvious ones where someone has stuffed up a pass and cost a goal.

Its a tactic that we need to get better at and practice makes perfect.

Our strong bodied Midfielders:

Judd.......well no one can stop him and no one can beat him
Scotland..tough as nails, takes on allcomers and gets his hands free when tackled
Carrazzo..tough as nails. Matches strength with Geelong onballers
McLean...tough as nails. Matches strength with Geelong onballers
Murphy...strong body and knows how to handle the tough stuff. Also elusive.
Gibbs......despite his young age he is tough now and has a body which handles the tough stuff
Joseph...tough little fella who has done a great job on Ablett in the past
Houlihan....can drift up to link up like he did last week from HF. He has a very mature body and nowdays uses it effectively.
Kreuzer....huge misfielder who plays the RR role very well in the ruck

The there's the quick and elusive Midfielders:

Simpson
Betts

Maybe we will more than match them in the midfield which should relieve a lot of pressure on our backline.
If that is the case then maybe 2 talls at FB and CHB is the way we go, and the rest can support and help double team, but most importantaly run the ball out of defense (with Walker, Armfield, Russell and Lucas).

If we play as a team and support each other, win the ball, run run run and dispose effectively...and that happens when fast players present for the ball carrier, then why not a win?

Hawkins...Jamison
Pods......Walker
Mooney...White...but would prefer Waite on him...if Bower doesn't get up.

Kreuzer can ruck if Warnock has to follow Ottens in the last line of defense, or vice versa.
I don't want Ottens to kick easy goals from easy marks against much shorter opposition. It happens all the time.

We shouldn't win because we are young and still developing our skills and our strength, but I'm growing more confident by the minute.

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I think we would be crazy not to bring back Thornton for this one. We need the experience down back against Geel so for mine its:

Jamison on Pod
Russell on Johnson
Walker on Chapman
Armfield on Byrnes
Thornton on Mooney
Bower/Waite on Hawkins (hopefully one of those guys play) if not good luck White.

Joseph on Ablett
Carrazzo on Selwood
Houlihan on Mackie or Milburn (defensive role up forward)

I would think Wojcinski will get Yarran, Taylor on Henderson and Lonergan on Ohailpin.
Hunt on Betts?

I hope:

In: Thornton, Waite/Bower
Out: White, Robinson

Harsh to drop White but lets not forget he got most of his touches in junk time and he was beaten one on one against a team no where near the standard of the one we will play on Mon. The delivery into Geelongs forward line will be a lot more difficult to deal with. White will make his way back soon enough. I think Robinson just needs a week or 2 in the Ants to get more of the footy, he needs to get more involved in the game.

I have a feeling Brock will come back too so it will be interesting to see who makes way for him.

I would love an update on Bower. He is not listed in any injury lists.

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It's got to be Jamison on Mooney. Pods & Hawkins are mickey-mouse tall forwards.

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Agree about Hawkins.. Podsiadly can play though.

And this isn't based on 5 goals last week, its based on years of dominating the VFL

If we have this approach we are in trouble, especially with the delivery he will get from Geelong's midfield.

Unless Bower returns, Jamo is the only one for Podsiadly IMO

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Exactly. He's slow on the lead. Anyone of our tall defensive stocks can take this guy and dominate him.

Port might be a skilful and pacy team, but they are as physical as a light breeze. It looked like boys against men out there, especially in defence.

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I hope Ratts rolls the dice and resists the temptation to put another tall in. I'd like to see the following;

Jamo on Mooney
White on Podsiadly
Walker on Hawkins

If our midfield can get on top and maintain pressure then supply to these guys won't be great. IF supply is not great then the ball hits the ground and we can expose them with a smaller backline.

I want Gibbs to go with Chapman everywhere, Russell to play on Johnson and Joseph for Ablett.

I want our midfileders to try and direct as much ball to Milburns opponent because he is not good at being accountable.

Great post BB.

The only change is I would put Walker on Mooney and White on Pods. Mainly because Mooney will play further up the ground and hopefully Walker can run and create more attack from there.

A left field consideration may be to drop Warnock (although okay last week still along way off his best and needs time) and bring in Waite. Setanta would then play as the mobile second ruckman and Waite can go forward. It also gives us a lot of flexibility around the ground whilst improving our ground speed even more!

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You think so Jimmae?

I thought that Carlisle and Chaplain were pretty big boys and definitely comparative to any two of our tall defenders.

If what I heard on "On teh Couch" last night is true, the cats only went inside 50 20 times in the 3rd qtr against Port at the weekend, yet scored 18 times (11.7). 20 inside 50's is up on most team's averages, but not by much. The ball must have been coming in so easily to allow that many scoring shots.

We must have ruck dominance, and win the clearances to win this game. Minimise turnovers and we are a chance.