On the money Cazzesman.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Just because some of us aren't throwing tantrums like petulant 12 year olds doesn't mean we have a blind allegiance to Ratts. I have concerns about Ratts too but sacking him immediately isn't going to magically fix the deficiencies in our playing list and improve the existing players skills, mental application and effort. Coaching is only one aspect of a successful team. To focus solely on Ratts is simplistic.

As usual you are missing the point !

A coach who's tactical and management inexperience has been shown up numerous times would try to address the gap by bringing in experienced hands, rather than more inexperience, hence interesting.

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Scott, things aren't as happy as they used to be down here at the unemployment office. Joblessness is no longer just for Philosophy majors - useful people are starting to feel the pinch.

I was going to reply to this myself, but I can't say it much better than that other than to say I'm not here repeating the same thing and to suggest its blind allegiance is laughable. I guess hysterically calling for him to be sacked is informed and and reasoned.

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Can we please fix the title up? It's embarrassing!

Should we sack Ratten?

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dane's trolling again

I love the title, shows the poster was just so angry he couldn't get his spelling right.. omghz rattins needs to b sakced!

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#23: Lachlan Henderson

What actually makes experience. 4 or 5 ex players who have played 250+ and 300+ AFL games each that include Finals, State Games and representing Australia Overseas or someone who has played next to no games and went down the trail as a Coach since U14's. People use to bitch and moan about Brittain because he had no AFL experience. Voss has had no experience. Bucks will have limited experience.

Regards Cazzesman

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Nope, they get billions of dollars in bail out monies and then pay themsleves millions of dollars in bonus's.

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Should Geelong have sacked Bomber Thompson in 2003?
Should Freo have sacked Mark Harvey last year?

Yes I think Rats needs some tactical assistance but if he was in charge of Geelong or St kilda I think they would still be winning games.

Reilly is the best assistant coach - did he not win that award last year?

If we take a really brief look at history and look at the Wallace departure from Richmond, the Laidley departure from North, the Daniher departure from Melbourne, the Connelly departure from Freo, the Pagan departure from Carlton etc etc..... all of this happened only when their clubs established that they were definately out of the finals race.

Once playing finals is no longer a real possibility for us then lets discuss Ratts if we need to. But for the time being we are 1-2 after round 3. If our next 4-6 weeks is as dire as many predict then things could be different, but for the time being there is still plenty of football to go this season and we are still definately in the race to play finals.

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OK...

A Coach is piloting a plane to its Premiership. Part of the way into the flight, severe crosswinds blow the plane off course. Does the Coach turn back to his point of origin, and start again? Or does he correct and make adjustments, and still arrive at his Premiership?

I hope the Ratts knows how to fly a plane.

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Fu.kc yeah!

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Congratulations CK95

Well done on offering something different to the discussion.

A very valid observation too.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

MR Caz what would do you suggest??... More of the same crap? Yeah lets keep to the same old script, maybe one forced change and give this raabble one more week to redeem themselves???

Yeah reminds me of a Carlton banner made by the cheer squad.

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Dunno if this has been posted elsewhere but Jon Ralph and I think Daniel Harford were talking about Ratten on SEN this arvo. Ralph suggested that Ratts was highly thought of at the Club by the powers that be as Coach and that there was/is an expectation that the Club would struggle on the field without Judd, Waite returning from injury, and adjusting to not having Fevola. Ralph made the point that there is a feeling from some within the Club-no names mentioned- that Ratts is indecisive and is prone to changing his mind frequently. I guess one interpretation on that is that he is flexible and not rigid in his orthodoxy the downside is he can be all over the place at times and that has certainly been evident during his tenure.

He will be put under the microscope a fair bit more after an ordinary 2010

But Ratten wont be sacked mid season.

The question will be whether he is sacked before 2011 and paid out - or instead whether his contract is simply not renewed after 2011.

At this point - I think that he will just not be renewed.

My view is that he will probably be well respected as a true carlton man that has guided his club back from what were fairly depressing depths.

But although there is respect him on one level - the fact remains that Ratten is a coach that can only take Carlton so far.

This truth isnt clear to all right now - but I think that this will become more and more evident as this season unfolds.

He will have done an excellent job to bring the players up to a certain point in their development.

But a different kind of coach is needed for the special things that need doing during the time of the premiership window - which is actually not all that far away from us.

We are closer to the premiership window of the new Carlton than the span of time that exists between the salary cap issues of 2001 / 02 to our first wizard cup winin 2005 under Pagan.

The Carlton decision makers will eventually have to make a hard choice about a good, loyal long serving servant of the club.

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