Where is a first rate coach hiding who can take us to glory?

Is it you?

You speak of the new young coach - who is hidden from us at the moment - but be assured that he will appear soon.

However most people will not see this young man as exceptional or special in any way at all.

His appointment will actually be a rather underwhelming event to the footballing fraterinty.

As I have previously stated - Carlton will lose a string of games - culminating in a very bad loss to St Kilda - before improving in the second half of the year.

But of course - these early losses will cost us a spot in the final eight. 2010 is to be a very mediocre year - where the St Kilda loss will be the low water mark.

If we were to ensure that this particular worldline was not to become a reality for Carlton - then is was extremely important that we beat Essendon* tonight.

So if you are upset with Ratten now - then you will be apopleptic after the coming month or so of football misery.

As dissappointing as this time is - of our losses in this period wont be particularly bad - except for the St Kilda one which will be a 70 point blowout..

Given these circumstances, obviously, the calls to sack Ratten will reach a fever pitch in coming weeks.

But our longer term prognosis is a very good one - and this unpleasant period that I have warned people about for a number of months now is unfortunately also a very necessary period of football suffering.

This is an important time where we will distinguish the wanted from the unwanted, the valuable from the relatively valueless.

In the ancient agricultural practice of winnowing, people exposed harvested wheat to the wind so that the chaff blew away - leaving the valuable grain behind.

The talent that we need for the future is with a few exceptions already here - and this is a painful but necessary time of moulding and shaping - to form a Carlton team that will do glorious things in coming seasons..

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My Blue Heaven

for me tonight was an absolute disaster.

agree with putting gibbs in the guts, go all out. try and win, dont try to save.

kruez, gibbs and murph will all be superstars, make no mistake.

2 umpiring decisions i would like feedback on are... 1. the Essendon* dropping the ball/goal. IMO a brilliant decision as he had ample opportunity and then got tackled and dropped the ball, incorrectly disposed of it and kicked the ball only after it had hit the ground. 2. the non holding the ball decision when yaz flew off the bench. WORST DECISION OF SEASON SO FAR!

Lastly there were 3 seperate occasions tonight in which carlton had a mark/free kick and under no pressure at all found the boundary line on the full. THAT IS DISGRACEFUL AT THIS LEVEL. Hendo once, yaz once, not sure of the third but was deep in defence. NOT GOOD ENOUGH. and this sort of crap has nothing to do with ratts.

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i AM CARLTON

Two words............

pa.........thetic...........!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Unlike last week where a superstar performance cost us the game, we're not a good football
team if we play, kick and coach like that. We're one of the few teams who always make Essendon* who are hopeless and a middle of the road team look good. If they had have played their slower legs in McVeigh, Myers, Prismall, we might have had a better chance of playing the game on our terms.

We possibly saw the outs as a positive, so we may have dropped off one per cent in effort.

I said that they'd pick those pissy front runners who cut us up in space , but our players and coaches just don't pay them any respect.

Work ethic and talent wins games, not talent alone.

The players always looked pleased with themselves and give each other pats on the back after kicking a simple goal.

I hate that.

That would motivate me if I saw the opposition thinking they had the points before the final siren.

They should just go back to the middle and work hard to get another.

The Cats and Saints don't celebrate until the game is over.

Both parties deserve a kick up the pants.

Except for Walker who is being bagged for punching out of his weight division in the past two weeks against KPP .

I find some of the negativity directed towards Armfield baffling.

He was immense tonight. Without him the Bombers were dead certs to have kicked 3 more goals. His two defensive spoils and rundown on Longeran were first rate.

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Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

Now this prognostication will make interesting re-reading in a couple of months time.

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"our electorate seeks less to be informed and more to be validated." Sad times.

You missed the shepharding free against JR in the goalsquare and the free for in the back to Dempsey when he slipped over

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Also when Eddie missed running into an open goal it wa bcoz he was shoved fair square in the middle of the back
#

.....But despite 3 bad ump decisions....we were losers most of the night....bad losers

im sorry, ill correct myself. the decision against JR when he punched the ball through for a behind and got called for something, costing us a goal, WAS THE WORST DECISION EVER, THATS RIGHT, EVER!!!! was that little razor ray??

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I tend to agree with a lot of that, will be a bit of pain in store me thinks. Lets hope its worth it.

Also this new coach you speak of, how long has Ratts got?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I am not sure whether Ratten will be sacked - or whether he will be allowed to serve the remainder of his contract - which expiures at the end of 2011.

There are some opposing forces at work in this situation.

On the one hand - a need to appease perceptions that will be formed following what I sense is a kind of mini footballing disaster - an ugly period straddling the remainder of April and part of May.

This is a force that would see Ratten sacked

And on the other hand the fact that irrespective of his football talents - which he does have - Ratten's appointment has a bit of a whiff of former players and mates' nepotism about it.

This in an opposite force that would see Ratten stay and see out his contract.

Put simply (perhaps even too simply) it is the balance between these things that will determine his fate.

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My Blue Heaven

FWIW......Knights coached really well.

sometimes we need to give opps credit where it is due.

especially early in the game he kept rotating his fwds and they always appeared to have dangerous options up fwd. He achieved a lot of mis matches in his fwd 50.

Eg Ryder to CHF on BT (had a big pace adv), Rhiemers deep v Jammo, Gumby v AW was mismatch

If the Bummers had kicked straight early we would have spent the game 30+pts behind.

he certainly got a lot more out of a mediocre team than Ratten did.

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My Blue Heaven

I support our team, Carlton.
I support them week in week out, my heart is with that team.

We lose, we lose. It hurts but theres a game the following week
We win, we win. It feels great and theres a game the following week

Good times will come
Bad times will come

sup·port·er   
–noun
1.a person or thing that supports.

Thats what i do.
I support whatever team is put out there each week, coached by whoever they may be.

Yes i get pissed off like every other supporter, but i let it go and focus on the following week.
I dont let it come back and bite me every time this team has a downer.

Shite happens, suck it up.
Makes me sick that some of the posters on here are 'supporters'

Just let it go and actually support the team.

Letting it go is what got us where we are today...letting it go=lack of support

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre

That performance was an absolute discrace !!!!!!!.

Some of us here wear our hearts on our sleeves !, and there is nothing wrong with that. When we come up against a team
that has been depleted by injuries and are not playing good footy, we are expeced to win, NO EXCUSE.


The whole team, incl coaching panel should hang there heads in shame. I sometimes have to wonder if they do feel remorse after a game like that?, or do
they just say, "oh well, no big deal, we'll just let it go and worry about next week. I'll still get paid no matter how I perform !!!!!!!!!!"

One thing that is noticable is,
No Judd = No Carlton !!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,there,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Ive said it .

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BRING BACK PERFORMANCE BASE PAYMENTS !!!

So after 1600 posts you reveal your true identity is actually Nostradamus! What a crock!

More like no Fev no Carlton. Judd had to play in the forward line to make an impact and kick goals.

Essendon* have a couple of young gun backmen and they will do very wel.

We need to restructure that forward line - just not working.