Come on people say it

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:54 pm

camelboy wrote:

Pafloyul wrote:

Orchid, Fuchsia...Rhododendron, hydrangea...mumble, mumble...(some other words)...

Haha, that's actually pretty good. :lol:

You reckon? I thought it was flower.

camel · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:54 pm

Tractor Boy wrote:

I'll say it.....We had a bad night on a night we needed to stand up. Who does one blame for this ? We all have our opinions.
Walker and Gibbs disappointed me. But not because of there effort but because i can only judge them on the roles they are assigned. They should be used as weapons not barriers.
Ratts needs to make a statement. I can deal with losing but losing in the coaches box when we lose i struggle with this.
Bad kicking is bad football,yes it is but bad kicking comes from perceived pressure also. Do we talk enough on the ground?
A few changes this week might be on the cards. But i hope we don't wield the axe. I'd say 3 at best. Brock injured Judd returns. Think AJ, Robbo and 206 might come under scrutiny even Houla....But i could deal with the one forced change... Just to keep perspective and then judge this group of 22 after next weeks performace.

Don't agree with everything you say, but most of it, certainly. More to the point, though, three cheers for making constructive critcism instead of just frothing at the mouth.

:beer:

Tractor Boy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:55 pm

verbs wrote:

Serious?

I thought that was Robinson's best game so far.

Its just where i think the changes might come from. It'll be about team balance . I'm not advocating he be dropped but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. I would like to see Hammer Grigg Brown played to determine there long term future to our club.

Think Armfield might be looked at too...

Navy One · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:55 pm

Bring back Sheedy ..... at least we had a chance when he coached Essendon* ..... with Knights we haven't a clue

Pafloyul · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:15 pm **Posts:** 4842

verbs wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Pafloyul wrote:

Orchid, Fuchsia...Rhododendron, hydrangea...mumble, mumble...(some other words)...

Haha, that's actually pretty good. :lol:

You reckon? I thought it was flower.

Which one?

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 pm

No Bower
No Carlton

we are stuffed without him because Thornton is shit

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:59 pm

Pafloyul wrote:

verbs wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Haha, that's actually pretty good. :lol:

You reckon? I thought it was flower.

Which one?

Fuch sia

kingkerna · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:00 pm

Michael Jezz wrote:

kingkerna wrote:

had little to do with the coach and heaps to do with the players. We have some serious issues with our list when our top line players underperform, our effort was a disgrace we MUST make some players accountable for this. Simple kicking errors just cant be tolerated, people on here also have to take their heads out of their backsides and accept that some players that are spoken of as being good are actually very ordinary. I cant take this much longer when the future looks doubtful what is there to look forward to?

Let's knock that type of BS on the head.
Where was Hadley?
Where was plan B in the forward line?
Where was there anything like reasonable skill execution?

Shit if hadley is what you are clinging to we are worse then i thought!

Toranasaurus · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:01 pm

Sydney Blue wrote:

No Bower
No Carlton

we are stuffed without him because Thornton is shit

Thornton shit?

I think we'd be pretty stuffed without T-bird.

kingkerna · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:05 pm

shit all of a sudden bower is a star to cling to

Tractor Boy · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:06 pm

Sydney Blue wrote:

No Bower
No Carlton

we are stuffed without him because Thornton is shit

Wrong... Thornton is more valuable to our structures when Bower does play, Not because he isshit but because he shouldn't be playing Bowers position. ( Lets try Hammer or throw Waite back-short term ) So when we have no CHB we then plug holes everywhere. We take one player fromone spot tofill another whilst still leaving a hole... Don't blame Thornton he didn't kick all our points.

verbs · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:06 pm

Shit.

Virgin Blue · **Joined:** Mon Oct 22, 2007 12:32 pm **Posts:** 3021

We can't seem to find a safe pair of hands down back. Anderson was hopeless, and while he tried hard, and often heroically, cold hard truth is Armfield turned it over multiple times down back and it hurt us.

Carrazzo shouldn't be there in 2 years. If he is we are in trouble. Just can't kick.

Houlihan is merely a so so player these days. Was pantsed early when the game was hot. He shouldn't be there in 2 years either.

Betts' brain fade when he played on meters from goal was the Wayne Brittain turning point. Had he gone back and kicked the goal, we'd have had a sniff and game maybe could have turned out differently. Why he would run on and take a risk when we are 2 gls down is beyond me.

Fwdline is a worry. We scrap for most of our gls. Henderson seriously needs to work on his kicking. Setanta looked terribly lost most of the night. At 27, not sure he is the LT answer. Many might say he still kicks gls and that is true, but you need a fwd you can rely on at crux times, and we don't have that and will prob need to sell the house to get one, if we are lucky. And pls make it not be Kozi.

Thought Lucas was good. Quick, found the ball. Needs to work on kicking.

Not sure of decision to trade pick 10 ?? for Brock. Did OK in Rs 1 and 2, but after tonight I fear he will be exposed every few weeks. Who was on Watson? 13 touches at 1 Qtr time is a disgrace for our coaching panel.

Why is Gibbs constantly played in defensive roles? With the Juddster out, why wouldn't you put Gibbs in the middle? Sieze the day Ratten for crying out loud.

Warnock should get a spell. Give Sauce a go, he deserves it by all accounts. The inability of Kruez and Sauce to take a half decent mark is a serious worry. Kruez seems to have lost all confidence in his marking capability.

Mark J · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:12 pm

club29 wrote:

Phoenix76 wrote:

God forbid we say anything realistic around here.

Our coach is [edit] and the turkeys he handpicked to come to our club.

Its fun watching some people deal with a loss. Straight for the coaches throat. Cant be the players they are our idols! It has to be the coach.

Can't wait to read more.

Ok, Gibbs is soft and needs to harden up.
Warnock needs to take a mark over his head for someone his size.
Is Waite the least intelligent footballer in our team?
Krueze....please don't believe the hype, you still have a bit to learn.
1AW...the clocks ticking
Armfield....lucky to get a game imo.
Thornton..there was no J Brown out there tonight.

Is that enough? :grin:

LosAzules · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:16 pm

Sydney Blue wrote:

No Bower
No Carlton

we are stuffed without him because Thornton is shit

Thornton copped a heavy knock that affected his mobility. He came out in Q2 with a thigh heavily strapped. T-bird compliments a backline of Jammo and Bower very well, a great backman for the Blues, not a bad rookie pick.

I'm fuming after tonight but not with a player who had played one game injured and a had game where he got beaten my the best forward in the comp.

Humpers · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:28 pm **Posts:** 4945

Virgin Blue wrote:

Not sure of decision to trade pick 10 ?? for Brock. Did OK in Rs 1 and 2, but after tonight I fear he will be exposed every few weeks. Who was on Watson? 13 touches at 1 Qtr time is a disgrace for our coaching panel.

Brock was injured tonight - lower back I believe.

Headcutter · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:22 pm

Kreuzer, Gibbs and Murph are NOT going backwards. They are all guns and will be all time greats of the CFC.
At least they always give 100% yeah they had a bad night but they were great for the 2 weeks prior. (Murph was one of our best tonight)

get rid of the hacks · **Joined:** Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:53 am **Posts:** 1194

Warnock was much better than MK tonight, who was out muscled my Hille.

Playis skills are sub par.s like Army 40m out under no pressure get to me, yes he did some good things defensively, but his skill set is sub par.

Really glad our recruitmant policy was "unsocialable" footballers, considering how skilled our bottom 6 are.

I like Ratts ears more than his coaching, he can hear things from the opponents box and his wife has something to hold onto during a passionate night. But not moving Waite back, changing MK's role amongst a number of other issues has me questioning him being more than Fraser Brown's bum chum.

Goltzenberg · **Posted:** Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:25 pm

Ok, Put this into perspective.

Carlton should not of lost this game. But, they did and i never seen Carlton play as bad as that ever. They couldn't pick a ball up off the ground, kicked the ball out of bounds 7 times, couldn't kick the ball straight. Disposal missed targets all night.

Positives
No Judd, No Bower. Should both be back next week.
Judd gets best tagger, Gibbs and Murphy won't get tagged.
Never played worse and nearly won the game.
Yarran was just dynamite.
Forward line game plan exposed early in the season. Should be forced to make changes, if we have a game plan.

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3561

kingkerna wrote:

had little to do with the coach and heaps to do with the players. We have some serious issues with our list when our top line players underperform, our effort was a disgrace we MUST make some players accountable for this. Simple kicking errors just cant be tolerated, people on here also have to take their heads out of their backsides and accept that some players that are spoken of as being good are actually very ordinary. I cant take this much longer when the future looks doubtful what is there to look forward to?

Hang on. Weren't we beaten by an ordinary team minus several key players. Those who need to take their heads out of their backsides on this site are those who continually say that Ratten can't kick the ball for the players, or handball or tackle etc. It's all inside the head. Ratten cannot get inside the players heads. Effective leadership is about influence and inspiration. If the players don't believe the message, they will look slow, not chase, incorrectly position themselves, have doubts about what to do at the critical time etc etc.

Looking forward to the litany of naive and foolish drivel that will be masqueraded as excuses as to why we lost. We lost cause we have a second rate coach.

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