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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:45 pm 
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I just wish Gibbs played with a little more freedom.

Yep he always plays his role really well. But I think a negating role could be done pretty well by someone else.

I want Gibbs to be more the Hird type of player. Just move himself to where he's needed most. His accurate kicking for goal must be utilised IMO.

And one more thing. I know he's awesome and all but. Does he give EVERYTHING everygame.
He just never seems totally spent.

Go steady with the reply it's just a question :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:25 am 
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all i have to say is that according to ratten and hardwick he was equal 2nd best on ground in round 1
coaches association votes
(5,4,3,2,1 each coach)
Richmond v Carlton

7 Andrew Carrazzo Carl
6 Bryce Gibbs Carl
6 Heath Scotland Carl
6 Eddie Betts Carl
4 Matthew Kreuzer Carl
1 Marc Murphy Carl

not many players stir up more debate than gibbs but i think some of the criticism is very unwarranted, my take on it is that ratten has no clue where he is best suited to play and his role changes weekly leaving us supporters ever confused as to what we see from him week to week.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:16 am 
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strive for 95 wrote:
all i have to say is that according to ratten and hardwick he was equal 2nd best on ground in round 1
coaches association votes
(5,4,3,2,1 each coach)
Richmond v Carlton

7 Andrew Carrazzo Carl
6 Bryce Gibbs Carl
6 Heath Scotland Carl
6 Eddie Betts Carl
4 Matthew Kreuzer Carl
1 Marc Murphy Carl

not many players stir up more debate than gibbs but i think some of the criticism is very unwarranted, my take on it is that ratten has no clue where he is best suited to play and his role changes weekly leaving us supporters ever confused as to what we see from him week to week.


Don't be selfish Steve. Its not about the supporters and what they expect to see, its about the team.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:15 am 
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This may not be an issue next year if he doesn't hurry up and sign a contract. Where's your value for money then?




How has Gibbins been doing?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:29 am 
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club29 wrote:
strive for 95 wrote:
all i have to say is that according to ratten and hardwick he was equal 2nd best on ground in round 1
coaches association votes
(5,4,3,2,1 each coach)
Richmond v Carlton

7 Andrew Carrazzo Carl
6 Bryce Gibbs Carl
6 Heath Scotland Carl
6 Eddie Betts Carl
4 Matthew Kreuzer Carl
1 Marc Murphy Carl

not many players stir up more debate than gibbs but i think some of the criticism is very unwarranted, my take on it is that ratten has no clue where he is best suited to play and his role changes weekly leaving us supporters ever confused as to what we see from him week to week.


Don't be selfish Steve. Its not about the supporters and what they expect to see, its about the team.



that was exactly my point with posting the coaches votes.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:46 am 
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WA Blue wrote:
Does he give EVERYTHING everygame.

So your definition of him doing something worthwhile involves a furious flailing of arms and legs? Let's just drop him and move Anderson into his role then...

It's week 2, and he's currently averaging 25.5 possessions, has kicked 3 telling goals, setup and delivered numerous assists and pulled in some good marks. In fact, if you take a look at his stats, you'l find the only thing he's lacking at the moment is a few tackles.

Does this mean he's not doing the tough stuff? It mightm if not for the fact that he has 9 1st possessions & 10 clearances so far this season. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:36 pm 
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strive for 95 wrote:
club29 wrote:
strive for 95 wrote:
all i have to say is that according to ratten and hardwick he was equal 2nd best on ground in round 1
coaches association votes
(5,4,3,2,1 each coach)
Richmond v Carlton

7 Andrew Carrazzo Carl
6 Bryce Gibbs Carl
6 Heath Scotland Carl
6 Eddie Betts Carl
4 Matthew Kreuzer Carl
1 Marc Murphy Carl

not many players stir up more debate than gibbs but i think some of the criticism is very unwarranted, my take on it is that ratten has no clue where he is best suited to play and his role changes weekly leaving us supporters ever confused as to what we see from him week to week.


Don't be selfish Steve. Its not about the supporters and what they expect to see, its about the team.



that was exactly my point with posting the coaches votes.


Oh yeah. Sorry.

As long as Gibbs is behind the ball it suits me. Let his kicking and decision making set up play into the forward line. Giving him a player to mind is a good way to stop him getting tagged each week.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:05 am 
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jimmae wrote:
WA Blue wrote:
Does he give EVERYTHING everygame.

So your definition of him doing something worthwhile involves a furious flailing of arms and legs? Let's just drop him and move Anderson into his role then...

It's week 2, and he's currently averaging 25.5 possessions, has kicked 3 telling goals, setup and delivered numerous assists and pulled in some good marks. In fact, if you take a look at his stats, you'l find the only thing he's lacking at the moment is a few tackles.

Does this mean he's not doing the tough stuff? It mightm if not for the fact that he has 9 1st possessions & 10 clearances so far this season. :thumbsup:


Hey look I was right

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:14 am 
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He was crap along with a few mates tonight. The measure of him is how he responds next week. Sadly Ratts will have no idea how to cope with their game plan :oops:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:17 am 
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Hehe. You do have to wonder why anyone would post here.

Such a strange place.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:18 am 
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Hehe. You do have to wonder why anyone would post here.

Such a strange place.


Hehe ... it's like a tour of Willie Wonker's Chocolate Factory some days.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:40 am 
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Did his fair share of disrupting Essendon*'s play and setting up our own, but when you have blokes turning the ball over in advantageous spots for the Bombers, it's pretty hard to get back to position. Combine that with a few team mates who over-committed to forward thrusts and left themselves further exposed, and you understand why he looked like a goose.

Gibbs is the least of our team's worries. He is doing just fine.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:14 am 
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Gibbs played another purely defensive role, taking the quick Winderlich out of the game by dragging him wide to a wing.

But my point is surely this is a waste of talent? Someone said Bryce should be used like Hird, and I agree.

Ratten seems too defensive minded. Takes his stars out of the game.

When the game was there to be won, when we needed a cool head and good kick fwd of centre, Ratten kept Gibbs in the dark.

Is it bec Ratten is too defensive, or bec the lad hasn't signed his contract yet and the club don't want to play him on-ball where he can rack up 35 touches and pump up his price??

With Judd out, surely it made sense to have Bryce in a more attacking role??

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:47 am 
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..coaching tactics aside, the Gibblet needs to generate some urgency within himself.. ..otherwise he's heading in the right direction.. ..i reckon he'd be an 'obedient' player type, so i reckon it's more the role he's being asked to play that may frustrate us..

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:15 pm 
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Workrate was lacking severely like many of his teamates.

Has to realise he can't rely on someone else stepping up - he's shown he can step up when necessary (Vs Richmond a few years back with Judd out). There are reports of a thumb injury but that doesn't stop you from working hard both offensively and defensively.

We looked a great team last year when opposition teams allowed him to be free on the defensive side of the centre square and take 12 marks a game but he has to realise he won't often get that much space anymore. All comes back to work ethic and desperation.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:35 am 
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Played in a defensive role again last weekend

And hand still seems to be wrapped

Is he playing defensive purely bec of the hand? Is there something more to it?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:25 am 
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I reckon he will get a another defensive midfield/back role this week.
Chapman or Bartel.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:36 am 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
Played in a defensive role again last weekend

And hand still seems to be wrapped

Is he playing defensive purely bec of the hand? Is there something more to it?


Or perhaps after the Essendon* game, they wanted to get some better ball use coming out of defence.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:23 am 
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How good did he look off half-back last week?! Just set us up so well and didn't turn it over. Disposal efficiency was 92%! He must stay there until we get more rebounding defenders who use the footy well. So let's keep him at HB for mine.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:54 am 
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How good did he look off half-back last week?! Just set us up so well and didn't turn it over. Disposal efficiency was 92%! He must stay there until we get more rebounding defenders who use the footy well. So let's keep him at HB for mine.


Hit the nail on the head. I think every coach wants one after Hodges year in 2008.


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