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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:14 pm 
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if you have a look at the anzac day parade in melbourne, you often see a lot of asians etc that are cheer on the 'diggers' despite being first generation migrants (and in many cases these people are non christian/catholic).


:?: :?: :confused: :?: :?:

just a comment that its more likely that non-european migrants (which make a fair % of the population nowadays) will find more significance in anzac day than in a religious day like good friday.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 5:28 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:11 pm 
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Why is Good Friday and the idea of being a "good Christian" or "devout/faithful" (or whichever word you choose to use) and going to the footy on that night mutually exclusive? Why is it impossible for them to coexist on the same day without the collapse of mankind? If someone who I know is extremely observant of their religion like Chucky doesn't attend church on Good Friday, yet he feels it's a pivotal day in his faith, why would it be such an evil if there was a match?


It's not impossible for them to exist on the same day...as I've stated before - Church is in the morning, lunch is at lunchtime and footy can be late afternoon. There are thousands of people out there, Christians included - who are looking for something to do on Good Friday if they aren't away for Easter. Good Friday is Village cinemas' 2nd biggest day of the year...for many, including myself - Easter Sunday is the main day of religious observance and footy has been played on this day for some time.


Yes, that's what I was getting at. I don't see why the 2 things have to be exclusive. Good point about Easter Sunday, too.

And, Woj, if the discussion becomes "robust", it won't be because of me.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:48 pm 
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Actually its not a good point about Easter Sunday.... Good Friday is far more significant than Sunday

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 10:54 pm 
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bluechucky wrote:
Actually its not a good point about Easter Sunday.... Good Friday is far more significant than Sunday


As an atheist I find the Sunday part of the story is much more impressive than the Friday part of the story.

Lots of people have died for other people but next to none have then vanished and shot off somewhere else.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:05 pm 
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bluechucky wrote:
Actually its not a good point about Easter Sunday.... Good Friday is far more significant than Sunday


I thought they both had very similar value. Doesn't the one lose its meaning without the other?

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 1:05 am 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
One question I'd like to ask of those for who Good Friday is a special day:

Why is Good Friday and the idea of being a "good Christian" or "devout/faithful" (or whichever word you choose to use) and going to the footy on that night mutually exclusive?


I can attempt to answer that from my point of view..no one elses.

I don't do Good Friday but I know what it's purpose is and I believe attending a football match is taking the attention away from something that is far more important. I would personally feel compromised and It would cross my mind that the glory is being taken away from something, IMO, far more deserving and onto the Footy. But that's just me.

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bluechucky wrote:
Actually its not a good point about Easter Sunday.... Good Friday is far more significant than Sunday


I thought they both had very similar value. Doesn't the one lose its meaning without the other?


Nope.

Can we go into this or is it best I just stop....?

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:08 am 
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I know that any one person can only answer for themselves (unlike some public figures who insist they are talking for a large group), and as such, the views are going to vary widely, even among those who are very devout.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:26 am 
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Will the players get paid penalty rates for working on a public holiday? I'd be really mad if I didn't get penalty rates.

Actually the whole 'public' element of the debate is an interesting one. Even though the 'public' get a holiday, a great percentage of 'public' have no belief or interest in the religious connotations for Christians on the day, yet all of the 'public' can be penalised by not being able to go and watch a game of footy with their family and friends.

In a democracy...


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:26 am 
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Feel free to continue the discussion of Good Friday's significance in comparison to Easter Sunday in another thread lest this thread get hopelessly off track.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:30 am 
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I'm all for Good Friday football. Would be fantastic for the interstaters out there. Footy on Friday, then have three days to enjoy Melbourne.

Bring it on I say !! And as for the point re sport on a good Friday, if it's good enough for the Italians to play Serie A or B on Good Friday then its good enough for us !!

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:34 am 
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Orangewhip wrote:
Will the players get paid penalty rates for working on a public holiday? I'd be really mad if I didn't get penalty rates.


Many clubs train on Good Friday so the question is partially moot. I doubt penalty rates would apply to footballers anyway, their employment situation and contracts are different to Joe Timeclock's.


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Actually the whole 'public' element of the debate is an interesting one. Even though the 'public' get a holiday, a great percentage of 'public' have no belief or interest in the religious connotations for Christians on the day, yet all of the 'public' can be penalised by not being able to go and watch a game of footy with their family and friends.

In a democracy...


Plenty of the public either work on Good Friday (emergency services, take away places etc) or aren't paid for public holidays (contractors like myself etc) so that muddies the waters a little as well. Arguing that people go away on the long weekend doesn't have that much merit considering that the AFL play games on the other days when presumably these people would still be away.

I personally think the AFL should trial it for 2-3 years and let the public vote with their feet, and if they do trial it I'd like Carlton to be one of the clubs.

If they give it to Collingwood I'll be more than a little pissed off.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:48 am 
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Wojee wrote:

If they give it to Collingwood I'll be more than a little pissed off.


Lets pray that doesn't happen. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:37 am 
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After the first 6 rounds this year we are averaging about 7,000 more pilgrims a week compared to Collingwood. Looks like the Pies supporters have lost faith and on that basis we should get the Good Friday game.


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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:41 am 
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woof wrote:
After the first 6 rounds this year we are averaging about 7,000 more pilgrims a week compared to Collingwood. Looks like the Pies supporters have lost faith and on that basis we should get the Good Friday game.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 5:18 pm 
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Over 25,000 at the Dome today to watch Melbourne Storm take care of the Dragons.
Storm usually average about 9,000 I think.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Its not going to happen while Andrew Demetriou has a say in things.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:37 am 
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AGRO wrote:
Hard to steer clear of religious discussions when the Good Friday Holiday is a religious holiday.

I think you will find that this idea will not get up because for the next 2 easters (2010 and 2011) the Orthodox Easter and the Catholic/Protestant Easters are on the same date - Demetrispew wont let it through. The hypocrite will do his stavro and go want to go to church for communion for the one day of the year that he goes - although he does have to stay clear of the holy water, it burns. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:41 am 
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bluechucky wrote:
Actually its not a good point about Easter Sunday.... Good Friday is far more significant than Sunday


Easter Sunday has more significance with me when it comes to lamb on a spit rather than, olives and bread on Good Friday! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:13 am 
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Vlad has said that it's not going to happen while he is in office.

Looks like that's that then.


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