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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:50 pm 
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It was one of those night where things just went their way in the end....

Good to see Ratts stick fat with Hendo in the F50 and not in defence with the loss of Bower....And he was rewarded.

Bring on the Bombers.

Brisbanes midfield is so overated...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:27 pm 
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Disappointing; but bad kicking is bad footy, and it cost us the game really.

We should've been so far in front.....but anyway.....Brown was superhuman.....like Lockett at his very best.

We're still short of a forward unless Carlos suddenly improves out of sight.....he did show signs until he panicked a few times.

The next few rounds look very ominous; but we may surprise.....lets hope so...... :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Virgin Blue wrote:
We lost bec...

- Betts/Yarran should have kicked at least 3 gls
- Waite was wasted on Brennan
- TBird and Anderson gifted 2 or 3 gls through terrible errors/turnovers, unforgivable stuff really

All that said, it was a worry we let Lions storm home just like in the final last year. Have we learnt anything??


Well I don't think we let them storm home. Lions have a pretty good 4th quarter record and Jonothan Brown was unstoppable.

Michael Jezz talked about getting Silvagni in to teach spoiling techniques...you could have plonked the great man himself out there and he would have struggled to contain Brown.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:57 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
We lost bec...

- Betts/Yarran should have kicked at least 3 gls
- Waite was wasted on Brennan
- TBird and Anderson gifted 2 or 3 gls through terrible errors/turnovers, unforgivable stuff really

All that said, it was a worry we let Lions storm home just like in the final last year. Have we learnt anything??


Well I don't think we let them storm home. Lions have a pretty good 4th quarter record and Jonothan Brown was unstoppable.

Michael Jezz talked about getting Silvagni in to teach spoiling techniques...you could have plonked the great man himself out there and he would have struggled to contain Brown.


Reckon SOS is a bit past it personally. Pointless comparison.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:01 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
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You can't blame Thornton.

Geez I bet If Brown could nominate on player of the oppostion that he woulld like to play on every week bet you that person would be MR NON CONTACT himself T-Bird. seriously why didnt ratten make the move on Brown with either jamison or even Henderson


Tbird did his best which is all you can ask but unfortunately it was nowhere near good enough. Quite obviously he's just a third tall defender who can read the incoming play and get to a contest to be the 3rd man up. I hope Ratts learns from that.
Why didn't he replace Bower with White? Isn't that why we recruited White?


Who did you want a first gamer in White to play on, Fev or Brown? :? No one could have stopped Brown last night and body contact is most certainly not the way to play him no matter who you are. He is too strong, the ideal approach is exactly what Thornton did and that's to have a clear run and jump at the spoil. Unfortunately he was lacking in reach and let's face it, severely undersized.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:08 pm 
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Would it have hurt to try Yarran as a loose man in defence and use his pace to bring the ball out of the backline?

Run was the one area where we really struggled against the Lions.

Yarran would still apply defensive pressure, yet that move could have brought him into the game.

Ratten coached well though.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:09 pm 
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Disappointed to lose but I'm pretty content with our progress. Lots of improvement needed but there's been some good signs and I think the players and coaching staff are improving with experience.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:18 pm 
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Would it have hurt to try Yarran as a loose man in defence and use his pace to bring the ball out of the backline?

No, not much of a leap on him.

This was about how we moved the ball in the first half, not how we defended. Direct turnovers in midfield gave the Lions a good chunk of their score.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:21 pm 
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fraser murphy wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
We lost bec...

- Betts/Yarran should have kicked at least 3 gls
- Waite was wasted on Brennan
- TBird and Anderson gifted 2 or 3 gls through terrible errors/turnovers, unforgivable stuff really

All that said, it was a worry we let Lions storm home just like in the final last year. Have we learnt anything??


Well I don't think we let them storm home. Lions have a pretty good 4th quarter record and Jonothan Brown was unstoppable.

Michael Jezz talked about getting Silvagni in to teach spoiling techniques...you could have plonked the great man himself out there and he would have struggled to contain Brown.


Reckon SOS is a bit past it personally. Pointless comparison.


Yeah, do I really need to point that I meant SOS in his playing days? Or is that a bit obvious?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:47 pm 
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Yeah, do I really need to point that I meant SOS in his playing days? Or is that a bit obvious?

Here's hoping he picked up on that. Maybe he thinks SOS' style of play wouldn't hold up?

Personally I think a strong, quick and intelligent 196 cm defender with suitably long arms can play in any era. Especially one with his marking & rebound ability.

SOS is the prototype of the modern day full-back.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:07 pm 
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We would have won if we had played on Good Friday......

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:48 am 
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jimmae wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
Yeah, do I really need to point that I meant SOS in his playing days? Or is that a bit obvious?

Here's hoping he picked up on that. Maybe he thinks SOS' style of play wouldn't hold up?

Personally I think a strong, quick and intelligent 196 cm defender with suitably long arms can play in any era. Especially one with his marking & rebound ability.

SOS is the prototype of the modern day full-back.


I reckon Geoff Southby was the prototype modern day full back; superb athlete.
Not as tall as SOS, but proportionally tall for the times.

Then there was the dash and strength of David Dench.

Sure SOS was taller than both, but then most forwards (and players) were shorter in the Southby-Dench periods than they were in the SOS period.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:15 am 
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Well Grigg's out of the mix; forgot about his VFL suspension.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:47 am 
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We kicked half our goals in a 13 minute patch. In the remaining 110 odd minutes we kicked 6 goals.

6.16 in 110 minutes is woeful.

Very few sides would lose games with the sort of midfield dominance we had. Once we turned the ball over Brisbane waltzed into their forward line unmolested, particularly in the last 1/3 of the game.

The patient ball control and structured movement Ratten has been working on implementing seemed to go out the window in this game, which I found interesting.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:28 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
Virgin Blue wrote:
We lost bec...

- Betts/Yarran should have kicked at least 3 gls
- Waite was wasted on Brennan
- TBird and Anderson gifted 2 or 3 gls through terrible errors/turnovers, unforgivable stuff really

All that said, it was a worry we let Lions storm home just like in the final last year. Have we learnt anything??


Well I don't think we let them storm home. Lions have a pretty good 4th quarter record and Jonothan Brown was unstoppable.

Michael Jezz talked about getting Silvagni in to teach spoiling techniques...you could have plonked the great man himself out there and he would have struggled to contain Brown.


I believe you need to appreciate greatness when you see it. Brown was the difference. 14mins to go in the game, Blues up by a goal, his goal from the boundary 50m out inspired his team to victory. They were all lifted by that and it seemed to take the wind out of the Blues. The defining moment of the game.

Browny did what champions do, he changed the course of the contest. C'est la vie. Take Brown out of the equation and the Blues (not at their best) win ... Voss says it was a team effort cause he has to say that, but it's rubbish ... Brown not there, Blues win that game without Judd, without Bower.

Carlton knows what it is to rely on one player to get you over the line, give me what we have now any day.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:43 pm 
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aramari wrote:
We kicked half our goals in a 13 minute patch. In the remaining 110 odd minutes we kicked 6 goals.

6.16 in 110 minutes is woeful.

Very few sides would lose games with the sort of midfield dominance we had. Once we turned the ball over Brisbane waltzed into their forward line unmolested, particularly in the last 1/3 of the game.

The patient ball control and structured movement Ratten has been working on implementing seemed to go out the window in this game, which I found interesting.

It didn't go out the window, the conditions didn't suit. They were playing a shorter kicking style which was bottling the game up while it was still a bit damp.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Perhaps we all should simply remember that this is still a very young team without its captain and best player who were up against a far more experienced side who had their captain and best player in and in the end it showed..

Anyway, I am with Ratts when he says that Irish is going to make a go of it at FF. Love his soccer skills ! :thumbsup:

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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Perhaps we all should simply remember that this is still a very young team without its captain and best player who were up against a far more experienced side who had their captain and best player in and in the end it showed..

Anyway, I am with Ratts when he says that Irish is going to make a go of it at FF. Love his soccer skills ! :thumbsup:


I think it's extremely important for Setanta and Hendo to have an established recognised player in Waite up forward with them. The opposition will always use up a good resource on Waite thus freeing up Setanta and Hendo. Its a good structure at the moment with Betts and Yarran buzzing around there also.


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Its a good structure at the moment with Betts and Yarran buzzing around there also.


Agree. Needs Garlett in the rotation to keep the buzzing "fresh".

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 5:04 pm 
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We didn't need Judd to win that game, but Bower being out was costly- and Brown was absolutely barnstorming.

Those turnovers are costly but the Blues are persisting with confidence in their disposal when converting to a short defensive game. I'm not unhappy about that as a supporter as I have seen the execution improving during Ratten's period in charge.


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