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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:19 pm 
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Jamos game on fev -hollywood did hardly anything - his interview after game nearly crying -he doesnt want to be there

So true Frank.
Pros..When we were good,we were so very good!
Some amazing passages of play..skill level with quick handballs has really improved.
We mostly smashed 'em in midfield and ruck...
We didn't give up.
Kreuzer....!!

Cons..Players were AFRAID to go for goals.
They didn't want to fail,so they passed it on...
avoidance behaviour...they'll have to really work through that.
Courage before the goals...don't pass it on..don't pass it off...don't panic.
Simple as that.

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:20 pm 
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pro
we are a team on the improve and there does appear to be a game plan emerging (at least more structure)
Setanta and Hendo did a job
Midfield were outstanding (incl the geat man Kruez)

con
Eddie
1) wasn't focused tonight or perhaps was not sure of himself. To win we needed Eddie and Yazza to convert.
2) His performance (and to a lesser extent J Waite's) in the taped half time quiz on 7. Eddie, please tune in to this planet (and kick a goal or three)!! Fancy thinking we finished 9th last year??? :roll: :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:26 pm 
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marciblue wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Jamos game on fev -hollywood did hardly anything - his interview after game nearly crying -he doesnt want to be there


Noted the same thing, even the missus commented on that interview. He still loves Carlton.
And i am sorry, but I am one of the few who are still sad that Fev isn't at Carlton, but seeing him play for them and his comments after the game were depressing :sad:

Why oh why Fev!


OMG but you two are a little delusional...I saw the same interview and he showed some love to Carlton but also showed he had moved on!


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:31 pm 
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Mrs Caz wrote:
marciblue wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
Jamos game on fev -hollywood did hardly anything - his interview after game nearly crying -he doesnt want to be there


Noted the same thing, even the missus commented on that interview. He still loves Carlton.
And i am sorry, but I am one of the few who are still sad that Fev isn't at Carlton, but seeing him play for them and his comments after the game were depressing :sad:

Why oh why Fev!


OMG but you two are a little delusional...I saw the same interview and he showed some love to Carlton but also showed he had moved on!

Wish I could agree Mrs .Caz...he was trying to say good stufff'bout Lions..but he was all choked up with remorse and regret I thought...
...don't think he's quite there yet...
still..it is subjective of course.

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:33 pm 
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What is with the Fevola love in?

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:35 pm 
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Pros:
Murph
Kreuz
Scotland
Simmo
Hoops
Hendo 3 goals...presents and chases all game
Another game into Waite, Warnock
Midfield dominance for 3qtrs
3rd quarter

Cons:
As usual Lions speed home in the last to snatch victory....wats the go with that???
kicking
turnovers
forward 50 entries
Betts
Yazza
using warnock as key target through middle
kick ins....too slow
Ando- sorry buddy costs us
their set shots were 400 times better than ours
Ratts persisting with Thornton on Brown try Waite or Setants
Setants kicked four but dropped sitters, missed easy shots, hurried everything(cant be sure of anything with him)......plays with heart though, gives his all, just still raw in terms of football smarts.



Overall done well to get close considering we only played the one good quarter, midfield won over there older stars....only our selves to blame

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:37 pm 
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Mrs C not sure that is right didnt look like he had moved on to me -in any case dont care really he doesnt play for us anymore -didnt think he had a good game and thought he got a couple of very lucky free kicks to kick at least one of his goals

He isnt the main man there and will never be I that will burn him - he has made his bed and now needs to lie in it much prefer to focus on our team


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:43 pm 
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Pros:

Some good performances from some individuals but as a collective unit...lacked the mental strength when the heat was on...as we have done many times in recent years..

Cons:

Its interesting how we can dominate clearances and yet not get over the line...we must have known brisbane would come at us in the last as they have done time and time and time again...the most disappointing thing about us is our inability to adjust to what we know certain teams are going to do to us....this shows a total lack of preparation..

We have Essendon* next week...another predictable opponent who has had the wood on us recently as well by simply implementing the same tactics each time they play us...can we make the adjustments tactically to get over them??? You would think so...hmmmm? :sly:

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:47 pm 
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Pros
scotland+mcleans in and under work
kreuzer in the ruck and around the ground
russell
ohailpin (despite several significant brain fades)
houlihan
henderson kicking goals

cons
bower's injury
anderson
inaccurate kicking by us + accurate kicking by them (as an example - setanta kicked 4.3+ at least one oof whereas brown kicked 7.1 from much more difficult shots)
betts - doesnt seem to be able to put it together interstate


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:48 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Pros:

Some good performances from some individuals but as a collective unit...lacked the mental strength when the heat was on...as we have done many times in recent years..

Cons:

Its interesting how we can dominate clearances and yet not get over the line...we must have known brisbane would come at us in the last as they have done time and time and time again...the most disappointing thing about us is our inability to adjust to what we know certain teams are going to do to us....this shows a total lack of preparation..

We have Essendon* next week...another predictable opponent who has had the wood on us recently as well by simply implementing the same tactics each time they play us...can we make the adjustments tactically to get over them??? You would think so...hmmmm? :sly:


Lack of preparation is drawing a very long bow... I'd say lack of accurate goal kicking cost us this game and don't underestimate the home ground advantage the Lions have.


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:51 pm 
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Pro's

Joey whilst mistake copped it and got on with and improved - god he probably wish a hole would swallow him up early. Courage and Character.

Walkers disposal - first three of the night were perfer.

Third qtr - sensational

Con's

accuracy :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:05 am 
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PROS - we showed plenty of grunt

CONS - we showed that we lacked polish


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:07 am 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Pros:

Some good performances from some individuals but as a collective unit...lacked the mental strength when the heat was on...as we have done many times in recent years..

Cons:

Its interesting how we can dominate clearances and yet not get over the line...we must have known brisbane would come at us in the last as they have done time and time and time again...the most disappointing thing about us is our inability to adjust to what we know certain teams are going to do to us....this shows a total lack of preparation..

We have Essendon* next week...another predictable opponent who has had the wood on us recently as well by simply implementing the same tactics each time they play us...can we make the adjustments tactically to get over them??? You would think so...hmmmm? :sly:


You should go to the Round 3 thread and tell us what Essendon* usually do when they play us and then tell us how Ratts tries (and fails) to beat them. Then we can all look for any changes Ratts makes to his plans of the past next week and understand what you are on about.

Pro:- Clearance work.
- How good we look when we turn up the tackling
- How good the forward line looked in the third once we started kicking straight, tackling hard and move the quick after we caused turnovers.

Cons:- poor kicking at goal early.
- cheap turnovers at the wrong times gifting them goals.
- Jon Brown kicking them from everywhere while we missed from dead in front. Scoreboard pressure costing us.


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:10 am 
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Just got back from the game and I am generally happy with the effort. If we play like that next week we will beat the Bombers - Jonathon Brown was the difference.

Pros
- Murph outstanding
- McLean. Very happy we recruited him.
- Russell very composed in defence
- Kreuzer excellent
- Henderson will be a player
- Scotland, Simpson & Houlihan were all good.

Cons
- Robinson looked a little slow and his decision making is poor
- I wish Warnock could take an overhead mark
- Anderson's first half
- Betts had an off day but these things happen

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
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our next 6 games :sad:


6 games without expectation, agasint quality opposition? sound good to me. it's gthe next 6 games we are expected to win that I worry about


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
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bluehammer wrote:
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brisbane didn't win by +39.5, meaning andrew lost all his money not supporting his team.
let me guess he has money and a carragher own goal, and ashton toe poke, and conchesky cross/top coner arse, and a 35yard Steven gerrard piledriver?
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thought not, mug punter...


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
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Elusive Turtle wrote:
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Setants dropped sitters, missed easy shots, hurried everything(cant be sure of anything with him)......plays with heart though, gives his all, just still raw in terms of football smarts, but kicked four

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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:26 am 
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PROS

We smashed them in the clearances for most of the match
Our defensive pressure up forward
I really like Henderson - has much to learn but his second efforts and endeavour are just fantastic
Fev played an average game
Despite several glaring errors Setanta is showing some real promise up forward.
Jordan Russell had another really good game

CONS

Eddie was uncharacteristically wasteful tonight
None of our defenders appear to be willing to go in hard on Brown. Thornton knows he is a beaten man every time he lines up on him
Blindly handballing to players with an opposition player running beside them or straight at them
Simply losing a game that was there for the taking


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:

Cons:

Its interesting how we can dominate clearances and yet not get over the line...we must have known brisbane would come at us in the last as they have done time and time and time again...the most disappointing thing about us is our inability to adjust to what we know certain teams are going to do to us....this shows a total lack of preparation..

We have Essendon* next week...another predictable opponent who has had the wood on us recently as well by simply implementing the same tactics each time they play us...can we make the adjustments tactically to get over them??? You would think so...hmmmm? :sly:


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 Post subject: Re: R2: Pros and Cons
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:29 am 
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Cons:

1. The number of people on here bagging anderson's game - he showed plenty of positives as far as i am concerned. Game would have been all over had we kicked straight in front of goal.
2. Our accuracy in front of goal.
3. People bagging yarran's game - ok, he didn't kick a goal but how much great pressure and chasing did he perform!

Pros:

1. Yarran's willingness to chase and tackle the whole game.
2. Anderson's 2nd half.

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