yep, what he said

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Yes of course we wont make the finals the next few years.... Wonderful article - so pessimistic - lets post more of that.

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Don't think it's as bad as what people are making out but it may or may not effect us. Can go 2 ways.

If Fev's departure sends us backwards as a side, losing games because we can't kick goals, it's a bad move. He's guilty of being no more than a d1ckhead. Be a big price to pay. Upside was alot better than his downside. Then not drafting a KP forward thinking we had plenty enough already. Watch for a supporter meltdown.

On the other hand, if we win around equal or more games, then it will be a great move. Getting rid of a d1ckhead, bringing other's into the game allowing them to blossom stands the side in good stead.

Moral of the story is that the 4 premiership pints will govern everyone's thoughts. Pretty cultures will seem so insignificant of we are losing games but great if we are winning.

Que?

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I just gave the 2 schools of thoughts in people eyes not so much a personal opinion.

As for just guilty of being a d1ckhead tell me I'm wrong. Punched anyone, destroyed any property like others? No, just a big d1ckhead. Huge one but still just a d1ckhead. It's about separating perception from reality. It could be a huge price to pay. I'm not sure personally we'll struggle as badly as many are saying though. Waite can play forward and if fit will be as good a CHF as anyone in the competition. Just lots of perception from the media who also have trouble separating that from reality.

If we lose games because of an inability to kick goals alot of supporters won't give 2 sh1ts about a pretty culture. But then if we blossom it'll be "what a great move. Got rid of the distraction etc... and we've kicked right on." Tell me I'm wrong there too.

Allegations of sexual assault?

The article takes virtually no stand. At least it's not hopelessly wrong or devoid of any knowledge on our football club. What happened to research in journalism? Everyone's so desperate to make deadlines they've actually forgotten about the story...

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Fevola is lucky that the journalist in question preferred to keep quiet on the matter.

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Not sure if anyone knows this, but I heard that we traded out Fev recently. Havent read much about it, must have only just happened

:TimLane:

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I agree with the headline but the article lacks a lot of substance which for a Tim Lane article, is surprisingly disappointing.

A BIG nothing article.

I'm glad Walls didn't writr an article about the Blues on the eve of our first game of 2010.

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Never been a fan of his articles. This one says nothing new. It's a summary piece that could have been written in nov last year.

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There's still tomorrow

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If Wallsy writes an article about us, I will read it good or bad and pay attention because I know that when we lose Wallsy hurts as much as the passionate supporter does. But if Tim or anyone else writes an article about us its "Meh' who cares and I may or may not read it.

I haven't.

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L.M 35-06

AFL journalism is of a very poor standard IMO.

While I am far from convinced the Blues will do well in 2010, I find it interesting that nearly all journos write us off without presenting any evidence other than Fev is not there anymore.

Don't get me wrong, Fev's absense might hurt us significantly in 2010, but I just think the journos might have explored some other angles in their assessments.

For example, we have a very young list, and so one would expect natural improvement in the young players. If 90% of the good young players we have improve their own games, then doesn't this translate to improved team performance? But most journos don't consider this.

The other thing is, and I do believe no journos have touched opn this this summer, is that if you recall the game against St.Kilda last year, after the game I think it was Roo who said the Saints were ready for the Blues bec they had seen the stats pre game and knew the Blues were the 3rd best team in the AFL up until that stage last year. And the result (we lost narrowly) confirmed we were the 3rd best team. Riewoldt really rated us that night.

Now obviously we finished 7th not 3rd, but that is largely due to the fact we were and still are a young side, we just fell away.

Fev's absense is going to have an impact in the short term (2010), but with the same token I would expect to see 90% of the following improve their respective games in 2010...

- Gibbs
- Murphy
- Kruezer
- Warnock
- Robinson
- Jamison
- Bower
- Joseph
- Armfield
- Yarran
- Betts
- Garlett
- Walker
- Henderson
etc etc tec

That's a lot of improvement

But 99% of journos can only think as far as "Fevola is gawn - Blues are stuffed'

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Well said, couldn't agree more.

I agree VB. And the fact that the goal scoring stats of our other players is presented in such a basic manner is also a bit lazy from many journos.

The fact, as we were so oft reminded during Fevola’s tenure at FF, was we sent so many of our F50 entries to the lovable buffoon. That is, we denied countless opportunities to all of other forwards. Therefore without Fev, ALL forwards will now get a vast increase in the number of scoring opportunities (well, assuming we can still deliver the same amount of ball into our F50).

It also pisses me off that the club is criticised for not drafting a tall forward to replace Fevola, as if a 17-18 year old could possibly fill the void anyway. Whereas the actual fact is the club did better than drafting a new kid by securing Henderson in the Fevola trade. That is, a highly-rated key forward with a couple of years AFL development under his belt.

Nobody knows if the outcome of the trade will bear fruit, but the fact the club is being wahcked for bot recruiting a key forward says a lot more about the people making the criticisms than it does about the club.

Moreover, the club had decided that Fevola simply had to go. It appears the club hierarchy felt a zero return for trading Fevola was better than keeping him. So, rather than concentrate on the immediate on-field aspect, why not back the club for finally, albeit perhaps a bit belatedly, having the balls to make a finite stand on Fev.

If we go backwards, we go backwards. In this instance, I would agree it was better to make a stand, regardless of the consequences such a move might make to our on-field fortunes.

Besides, the trade happened three or four months ago now, can we finally just get on with it, FFS!

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

I used to really like listening to Tim Lane but he's just another ratty old queen these days.

Not sure what changed (turning to commercial television may be part of it) but his articles and comments are about as insightful as the musings of a bucket of vegemite these days.

Just another oxygen bandit.

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