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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:57 pm 
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* Kreuzer - how many others also think he's struggling a bit at the moment?;


Did you leave at half time?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:07 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Guys - when you see a player who has been at our club for 3 or more seasons in a pre-season game and ponder that he seems a little laconic at times or is having some issues with his kicking, remember these simple things:

1. He's doing pre-season training, where players build their fitness for the season proper. In this day and age that means their workload between games is bumped up something fierce.

2. He's been focussing a bit more on physical work than skills compared to what will happen in the season proper. This will shift over the next fortnight.

3. The staff have a massive impact on the play in the pre-season as they shift players around to try new roles, develop roles or test theories about the team assembled and how they can structure. On top of this, fitness staff have an even bigger say on rotations and game workloads. Why? No one gives a stuff about the result.

So why are Judd, Kreuzer, McLean et al looking a little off the pace? Because they're burning it up on the track and eyeing off the real stuff. Judd's fitness base is going to be huge this year because he'll be mucking around until round 4. Round 4! Imagine.


Good points.

Also when we held the ball up before half time and started chipping around to kill the clock. Old folk near me were losing it. Going completely nuts but isnt a practice match a good time to refine such a tactic. Running down the clock well will get us 4pts at some stage this year.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:07 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
* Kreuzer - how many others also think he's struggling a bit at the moment?;


Did you leave at half time?

Regards Cazzesman



Well, 3AW commented on Carlton's game and season prospects solely based on David King being at Visy Park in the first half (and then returning yo the studio). King went on about how Carlton will not make the 8 etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:13 pm 
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Nice to be back at Princes Park but I felt a little frustrated going to a pre-season game when I just want to fast forward straight to the real stuff.

Warnock - I thought he was great. He seemed to be used a lot less in the second half and hence I didn't notice him as much but in the first 2 and half quarters I thought he controlled the ruck.

Betts - Was everywhere. Made a few errors with his decisions but was a joy to watch today. Plays like a full forward/CHF but obviously can crumb as well.

Setanta - Looked really good in parts, especially early. Like Warnock he was quieter towards the end but showed he can be a good target man.

Bower and Jamo - Just great.

Thornton - made a couple of silly errors and Brown is always a handful, but did pretty well.

Brock - Found it tough at times, got a lot more of the ball but made a lot of errors. Still I thought he was starting to come into it and get some form as the game went on. Many people in the crowd were giving him a hard time which I thought was a bit rough at this stage of the season. Seems like TC is really just a microcosm of the Carlton supporter base.

Juddy - Showed some dash and brilliance. Looking good.

Simpson - Didn't get a massive amount of it but when he did he looked good. He is such an underrated mark overhead.

Yarran - Pretty quiet, not bad when he got it but didn't seem to do a lot (note that I missed the first and last 10 minute which by other reports is when he was at his busiest).

Hendo - Coming into it nicely. Looking forward to when he takes some big, imposing grabs - hopefully that will come. But at the moment pleased to see him running to the right spots, taking some marks, disposing of it beautifully for a big man and kicking some goals.

Browne - Disposal was awful. Was doing the right things but just couldn't get a clean possession out there and hit a target.

Kreuzer - I agree with someone earlier who said that he doesn't seem to be going so great right now. I'm sure he'll find form soon enough, but looks a little out of sorts.

Heath - reliable and consistent. A good game.

Fev - Well held and was lucky to get three very dodgy free kicks in the forward line. Was nowhere near it really, except for one nice mark I saw (he missed the goal though).

Still a lot to think about but a big improvement on last week. Forward structures looking ok and everything generally looking a lot better, even when we were three goals down I thought we were going ok. But it's the NAB challenge so it's hard to know if any of this means anything


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:46 pm 
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Was great to be back at Princes Park for a match. Just like old times. All that was missing was the animations going beserk on the screen. Really impressed with how Bower and Jamison rose to the Fevola challenge. It may be different come round 2, as this was the first time Fevola came up against his old team, but both our defenders were fantastic in holding him to 2 goals. They were also able to run off him and create the play which was also pleasing to see. Thornton goes as a bit of an unsung hero most of the time, but he did a nice job on Jonathan Brown and Fevola. Did anyone else notice there was a little bit of a broo-ha between Fev and Thornton at one point? Maybe there are some unresolved issues there? Who knows.

As for our forward line, Setanta looked great, took some impressive marks both in the forward 50 and up the ground, and also kicked some goals. Betts was amongst our best players, I'm not sure how many he kicked (and please excuse me for not reading all reports thus far), but to me it seemed like a bag. Just on Kreuzer, he does look out of sorts at the moment. Did some nice things for us today, with the one percenters, so maybe it is just a matter of time before he finds form again.

In the midfield McLean looks to be finding his feet in our side, he made a few errors but he also did some great things for us too. He copped a knock at one point (which there was no free kick paid for high) and for a second there he looked like he didn't know where he was. Good too see him get on with the game, although I hope he doesn't have a concussion. McLean provided a bit of opportunity for Judd to get some more run into his game, and that will no doubt improve as the year goes on. McLean may not be the fastest player but what you miss out on the merry-go-round you pick up on the swings, and hopefully he can compensate for his lack of pace with hard ball gets.

Also found that Aaron Joseph showed a bit of an offensive side today. It has been talked about heaps that if he can introduce an offensive side into his game and do damage the other way, then he will be a very special player. Showed great pace, I'm not sure if anyone else saw it but there was a run down the wing at one point where he burnt off a couple of Lions players. That is what we need in our side, as teams with pacy players tend to cut us up. Here's to hoping Joseph's game further develops into both an attacking/defensive style.

Lachlan Henderson, after being written off from last week's match, showed that he has the ability to become a great forward for us. Took some nice grabs, kicked a few goals, and unselfishly created opportunities for others.

In the ruck division, as mentioned earlier Kreuzer seems to be on a bit of a form slump at the moment, maybe it is just a matter of blowing the cobwebs out before the season gets under way. Still played ok though for mine. As for Warnock, the signs are definitely there, although there were a few dropped marks that he should have taken. Gave us some great taps here and there, and created a bit for us around the ground. Really looking forward to his development this year and beyond.

On overall terms, I think Ratten really did his homework for this match. Loved the way the Lions got a break of a couple of goals (maybe more, can't remember) and our boys kept fighting it out and breaking back. The team certainly looked a lot cleaner than last week, our forward line functioned much better, and the skills were a cut above from last week. Having said that though, there is still plenty of improvement in the team left. Hitting targets, taking marks, appropriate decision making, and kicking goals are the main ones for mine. Enjoyed the match, and really excited to see us improve over the next few weeks ready to smash the Tigers once again.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:59 pm 
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Camel, thanks for posting Ratts' press conference.
In this day and age, is it that hard for the AFL or the clubs to organise a microphone for journalists at these conferences? I can never hear their damn questions!


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:59 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Effes wrote:
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As for Darren who phoned SEN after walking out at 1/2 time................"Suffer in ya jocks ya sad sack" :smoking:


Thanks for the report

Is that the Darren that rings up SEN/3AW all the time?

If so he's an embarrassment.


Yep

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Was driving to the ground with dad and some bozo rang up a call or two later - forgot his name.

But apparently he has a "dead end" job in the Docklands and commutes in the car from Craigeburn everyday and hates the drive home - he had to call in and say what a pleasure it was for him to hear that the "arrogant Blues" were struggling and were not kicking any goals and were getting done etc etc - and that his drive home was made ever so much more pleasant to know that we were struggling. :roll:

Well the driver who I was sitting next too :cool: - started and mentioned that this bloke was in a dead end job because he WAS a bozo and by the sound of it due to the "Global Financial Crisis" would need to be commuting for a few more years yet from Craigieburn to Docklands. He hopes that his commute is made ever so much more miserable by Carlton success over the next few years - and also hopes that his superannuation travels even further south so his retirement from his dead end job is just that much further away. :twisted:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:12 pm 
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Carn the blues.

Brock - Like any new person at a job, give him 3 mths probation before you sink the boots in. I actually thought he played ok today. I dont expect him to be fast, i want him tough in the middle and doing the hardstuff like diesal williams used to do. Couple of his short kicks landed short of his team mate, but they were low spearing passes, if they came off the opposition wouldnt of been able to stop. Sure he made a couple turnovers but so did alot of other players.

Warnock - Best thing l saw was when he got the hit out they usually went to a Carlton player. Seeing him doing a tap straight to Juddys gut and have him run thru the pack was awesome.

Yazzman - Keep him inside the side please. His tackling is awesome and i see him as being our rioli for sure.

Setanta - Best game l have ever seen him play.

Hendo - Could of easily booted 4. Keep it up

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:27 pm 
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pretty happy with todays performances - plenty of positives

betts - all australian form with the increased fitness
backline talls - all solid, special mention to bower for his dash. Barring injuries I dont think we need waite back there anymore which allows him to go forward :)
henderson - good solid performance. Will be able to contribute THIS year - looking for around 30-40 goals contributed for the season (ie ones that he kicks himself or helps set up)
yarran - a couple more glimpses of ability/vision. Not quite as strong as last week but still plenty to work with
robinson - another solid game. Needs a bit more consistency but will definitely get there imo.
simpson - solid hitout. Love his aerial ability. Wish we could find someway to exploit that
hadley - solid contribution. Looking good atm
setanta - dont have him in my 22 but did some nice things. Keeps doing nice things on ocassion but just not consistent enough for mine. His spot would be taken by hampson/waite in my team. Potential to play a solid role though


A few other things
mclean - some ordinary disposal (kicks) but a few nice tackles and did manage to get the ball a few more times than last week. Something to build on
browne - bad game from him (mainly disposal/turnovers). Have a few players ahead of him at this stage - armfield, davies, etc
game plan - we do seem to look for short passes to generate movement. Doesnt happen all the time but it is there though still needs a bit more work. Today a few players stationary until the ball is suddenly in their area (and hence started moving from flatfootedness) whereas they should probably be in perpetual motion (even if its a slow jog). In a more 'kick it long' game style, these guys would normally not be involved in the play however given the apparently plan to move it on quickly with short passes (which helps generate space as opponents chase the ball), players need to be prepared to receive the ball at all times. I think as the players start moving more, you will see a few of the 'skill errors' get tidied up as the players instinctively start moving to where the ball is meant to go (makes ball movement look quicker - judd/bower do this well) and also be more ready to receive the ball (less fumbling)
fev - crowd was in no way hostile. Some boos but nothing vehement


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:49 pm 
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Brilliant to be back at PP to see a clash between the Roys and the BLUES -SAT where I used to sit with my grandfather years ago on the wing -great atmosphere -great weather -couldnt have been better

Judd -exceptional game -take from middle in 3rd quarter sublime then followed up when his kick came off hands and then nice screw punt to EDDIE - only 7 points behind -gee thorton is a good footballer Brown kicked 3 but thorton beat him -jamo beat Hollywod - thought JOEY Anderson with his preparedness to run and carry from back 50 was good today

Hendo presented all day -will be good -eddie great pressure and a couple of telling goals

Crazy brave Robbo is a good footballer but will even be better when he learns football smarts

Disposal of Brock ordinary today but much better performance got a lot more of the ball and will be better for the run - walker also made an impression and scotland continued good form

Joseph and Warnock struggled a bit for mine but will be better for the run -Setanta also did ok

We need to work on goal kicking -keeop having more shots but Lions in front at half time because they were more accurate

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:06 am 
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Today's game have all but confirmed that Our main Forward for this year will be Betts.


our midfield and defense was GREAT, but our forward line was a mess. No Structure and no player capable of breaking the lines.


Henderson is just a kid. He is still learning the game. He is not ready yet. Setanta showed some pose but we know his capabilities. He is not the Answer.


The reality is that We must learn to win games by sharing the Goal scoring loads, and many of our midfielders must start kicking goals for us to win games.


We are not going to have a forward that will kick more than 30 goals a year, but We can play like the Bulldogs and rely on an overall contribution from all.


Waite is our only hope. He really needs to play forward because he is the only player on our list who can lead and take Strong marks. He has an imposing presence.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:56 am 
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were the brions wearing the fitzroy style jumper or the south park 'gay lion' jumper?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:13 am 
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i was looking for the "sky is falling" thread. anyone know where i can find it?? :grin:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:45 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:37 am 
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jimmae wrote:
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Just watched ABC news,and was surprised to see they say we gave Fev a hostile reception by booing...from where i sat..the boos were pretty friendly..people were just razzing him a bit.

Agree. Friendliest boos I've ever heard, at least en masse.

Ok, missed the first quarter entirely so can't comment on that, save for that we'd managed 4.7 and seemingly could have been in front at quarter time.

Defensive unit was very solid, but did cough up the ball with regularity after doing all the hard work. Case of gaining touch and fluency that you expect in the pre-season, should not be an issue come round 1. That was probably the key match-up for the game and for the most part we won it.

Despite the Lions having Fev & Brown, on paper we were the superior side and if this was the regular season we would have won by a considerable margin. Didn't bother to bring the squad lists with me so I didn't pay much attention to the Lions and the matchups aside from the obvious ones, although I did note Proud was more impressive as the game wore on particularly with ball use and Hawksley was also impressive.

I think the problem for Brisbane is quite simply a man named Voss. When the recruiting team get to their job, they do very well. When he gets stuck in, he runs very close to ruining all their good work. Ditto his game plan vs his senior players' efforts. People scoff at Ratts' but Voss runs a very simplistic system and relies on his players to generate something special. Fev looks set to get some stress fractures with a good 10 kilos back on him from last year. Looked slow at times.

Anyway, onto our boys:

Walker - physically superior but blowing out the cobwebs with his skills, good contributor and looked especially dangerous up forward. Went for a hanger and stupidly shoved his man in the back. A few boys were bringing down the good work they were doing with similar efforts, although there was some shocking umpiring in the mix as well.

Russell - cool, calm, collected. A few fluffed kicks when judging the flight of the ball but nothing that won't have been ironed out round 1. Russell of the second half of last year is the real deal and he's not going anywhere. Played a little forward of HB this time around.

Gibbs - faded out of the game for a short while late in the second and early in the third but otherwise was doing the best of what he did last season where he was one of our key passing players (that's the world game stat, Prowess uses ones like scoring involvements). Definitely not hanging off the back and was roaming all through midfield assisting play.

Judd - need I say more? Did what he had to do today, although keeps calling for/receiving the ball in tight spots. If I could knock one thing it's that he seems to be suffering a little bit under his training work load, perhaps he is in the same boat as McLean?

Simpson - good for his first hit out, got involved in the play, takes a good grab as usual and would follow up in a chain of possession to help assist/finish. Slotted a goal through such work. Will have another fine season.

McLean - still getting used to the 'Carlton way' but a better showing from him possession wise. Took a very solid hit in the third and after a case of the stumbles (which one Lions supporter near me labelled him soft for; female, presumably had never copped a spoil in the form of a haymaker) recovered to remain a part of ball movement. Is currently playing second fiddle to Hadley in the stoppage work, both through performance and instruction (I believe).

Kreuzer - his usual self. Not flash up forward but created a contest. I doubt he will see much time there this year as Warnock and Hampson have looked more impressive. That's not to say he won't score goals, but they'll be from drifting forward or having a ping on the run. Ground out the game with Warnock and allowed us to dominate the centre square clearances, but he regularly featured through the midfield play.

Hadley - really moving smoothly. Did his usual stoppage work and featured regularly in link play with the odd skill error like everyone else. The McLean trade has motivated him to work even harder and he looks to be flying. Will get a gig ahead of McLean if this continues, but might just be the beneficiary of McLean's current work load.

Warnock - just got better in every aspect as the game went on. Clearly relished the opportunity to tandem with Kreuzer as the only two rucks in the team. Has superb hands and great decision making and he is surprisingly slick with the ball in hand. We seem to have three ruckmen on the list who can genuinely rove their own taps, which is utterly frightening. Looked a handful up forward with his height, acceleration and leap. Put his hand up to play alongside Krezuer today.

Robinson - another good game from Robbo, continually does team stuff that makes you clap, then fires out the odd piece of stellar play on top of that. Back to business for him after trying to do the low percentage thing every time late last season. I still don't rate his pace and I fear he isn't good enough to create real havoc in the regular season. Mean side-step though. Another pre-season or two and he will cause headaches through the midfield drifting forward and back. For now, not quite in our 22. Motor is better than last year but you can tell it won't last the season.

Yarran - another fine game from him despite the crowd protests. Played second fiddle in the small forward role to Eddie and didn't particularly push into midfield but he really went about his decision making well when in possession and caused his fair share of forward pressure. The closest thing I saw to a squib was kicking the ball off the deck when in the thick of a bunch of players after the ball had spilled from a contest, but he was fending off a Lions player. Nothing wrong with this kid at all. Will feature round 1.

Browne - enjoyed his game again and played a mixture of dropping deep in midfield and HB. Not quite there for HB as I've said repeatedly and his disposal is suffering at present, but those who have ever watched him in the real stuff know he is an above average kick. Not worried at all about his progression and am pleased to know when a few midfielders inevitably go down through the season, we can safely rely on a contribution from Stephen. Improved endurance is a feature.

O'hAilpin - Our best forward for 2 of the 3 quarters I watched. Happily rotated between FF & CHF and didn't miss a beat. Set up plenty of play by being ready for a grab or a crumb and can be pleased with his performance. The aforementioned 'fading' in this thread was his spells on the bench. Was dog tired after the intraclub and missed the first NAB game so is still working his fitness base up, and that may prove tricky in his battle for CHF with Hendo.

Bower - another great game, rotated with the usual suspects to cause problems for Fev & Brown, who secured about 3 goals between them off frees. In the regular season the umpires would be up to speed and it would have been maybe 1 conceded, and that's without factoring in the tired ones Bower et al gave away today. As clean as a performance as you could expect defensively in my book. Pushing off HB he is in a league of his own. Great to watch.

Betts - yep BOG. Still made a few errors but was absolutely electric, and kept it up all game. Eddie is set for a big year. Looked in great shape, and his touch is coming together. Motivated like never before. Did a better Simmo than Simmo today; collected the ball up on the wing, disposed, then pushed quickly into the forward 50 to receive and goal.

Henderson - as predicted he looked more comfortable either at CHF or in a more open forward line, and got better as the game wore on. Snuck in two goals and an assist in the last to round out a game where he had worked for four quarters unrewarded on the scoreboard. One B. Fevola would have finished a similar game with 0.3 and a fifty on his sheet. 10 years at CHF, lock it in. Anyone still naming him at FF, don't. When it's congested, he gets bumped out of a pack at this point. Everything else from him is superb, although he's not a confident kick at goal. That will take a little time. The fickle bunch will like what they saw today.

Anderson - played mostly tall today and did a good job, especially judging the flight, but still lacks the attributes he needs at his size, most notably his ability to do more damage in possession. Doing his value no harm though with this performance, and happy to see that even the lower rung of our list can play a role.

Scotland - His usual self, playing on all the flanks and midfield roles offered and doing some good work. Not a feature role today but I suspect that was under instruction in co-ordination with the coaching and fitness/performance staff. In good nick.

Thornton - as he always is nowadays. Great player, and every time I think of trading him he goes up a cog. Still might do it when he's 29 though. :twisted:

Houla - solid if somewhat unspectacular, skills are up to notch and his fitness seems ok but was just getting miles in the legs for most part. Bit part player who looked to be moving the ball around in close then pushing up to make a link option to distribute to the forwards. Will be fine for round 1 now.

Wiggins - I would label him our weakest player today, however he was still very solid. Featured everywhere forward of HB, and will be solid if called upon. Still a very average set shot however which is a shame because he is otherwise a handful up forward. Not best 22 material IMO.

Jamison - mostly played on Fev and gave him a bath. Great to watch, and is ready to shut down many forwards this year. Absolutely crucial to our fortunes given Waite needing to be played forward and Austin's injury status.

Carrazzo - solid if unspectacular as well. Will settle into the defensive forward turned midfielder role as he fine tunes his disposal for the season proper. Fitness levels are excellent.

Joseph - more prominent early on today and featured in a forward role at times. Just doing his usual stopping role otherwise. I'm sure he's burdened under a heavy training load like a few others given his supreme fitness. Regularly involved in moving the ball around by hand and short pass when on the field.

If I've been a bit sketchy on our more inside players it's because I like to sit a bit lower to the ground and sometimes miss the centre square action, but we absolutely dominated them in that respect. No Black, no Brisbane as far as I'm concerned.

Away from that, really happy with the midfield instructions away from "avoid the corridor" component. We ensure that all our mids and HBs don't just follow their opponents into our F50, dropping off and sitting back in a zone in midfield as I've been asking for from them for some time. My only issue is that it's perhaps a little too defensive; Joey had a huge option to receive and dispose or shoot for goal at one stage when we were heading to the Legends stand end and just sat there in space, which actually put the guy in possession under pressure. Bit silly, but nothing too dramatic.

Everything looks in good shape as well tune up for Richmond. Be afraid Tiges, be very afraid. :cool:


good work, was going to post a review, but there is no need, pretty much spot on with everything i took from the game as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:13 am 
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From my perspective-

Judd, when someone had to stand up and get us back intyo the game, it was Juddy. A centre break, a handball to someone in space. If we went a couple of goals down, Judd would step up and drag us back into the contest. That Caro, is why he is a leader.

Jamo, great game on Fev. went with him step for step and showed good spoiling technique.

Bower, courageous, ambitious and improving. What more could you want.

Joey, love his courage but has a long way to go IMO.

JR, runs hard, uses the ball quite well as a rule but needs to lift his vision a bit and pick out the longer option occasionally.

T/Bird, did well on Brown. A couple of poor choices/executions cost goals. Overall, a decent game on a gun opponent.

Scotland, pretty good game but too slow on the transition from offence to defence. Spends too much time telling others to pick up a player instead of doing it himself.

Yarran, amazed some posters thought he was quiet. I'd estimate he played about 40-50% game time. When he was on the ground, he was excellent. Obviously the conditioning staff wanted him to have minimal game time because he was one of our best when he was on the ground.

Henderson, very impressed. Worked hard both ways, presented well, showed plenty of leadership/instruction in the forwardline. Seems to be at his best at the moment when running back into a "paddock" scenario. Just needs to demand the corridor a bit more which will come with maturity and experience.

Betts, excellent but needs to be more selfish. At one stage tried to pick out Henderson amongst 3 defenders which led to a turnover. It was a 1 in 10 chance of coming off. He has the ability to kick the goal and should have taken the shot.

Carlos, good when we had the ball, poor when we didn't.

McLean, yes he turned it over occasionally but his tackling and attack on the ball was fantastic. Concussed just before 3/4 time and hardly made an appearance after that. Did his job well IMO and will be a big bonus.

I thought Walks was poor. I'd suggest less than 50% of his kicks hit a Carlton player. Is that enough? Not if we want to be a good side. Yes it's pre-season but his technique is poor and this is a perennial problem.

Rucks were OK and both worked hard when the ball hit he deck, I thought Krueze was quite good around the ground.

I'd hope Lucas was getting a rest this week and wasn't overlooked. Guys like Wiggo are great club men but dont deserve opportunities before talented kids. The NAB cup is about the future IMO.

Lastly, we employed a full press when the ball went forward with 18 players in our front half. Seemed to work well and the players understood it well but stupid turnovers made it redundant at times.

Good intensity but sorry to say for those who only want the positives, a good side would have accounted for us quite easily. Lets hope we're only rusty and things will improve substantially from here.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:25 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Today's game have all but confirmed that Our main Forward for this year will be Betts.


our midfield and defense was GREAT, but our forward line was a mess. No Structure and no player capable of breaking the lines.


Henderson is just a kid. He is still learning the game. He is not ready yet. Setanta showed some pose but we know his capabilities. He is not the Answer.


The reality is that We must learn to win games by sharing the Goal scoring loads, and many of our midfielders must start kicking goals for us to win games.


We are not going to have a forward that will kick more than 30 goals a year, but We can play like the Bulldogs and rely on an overall contribution from all.


Waite is our only hope. He really needs to play forward because he is the only player on our list who can lead and take Strong marks. He has an imposing presence.


seriously.... :banghead:

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:29 am 
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BV wrote: "Yarran, amazed some posters thought he was quiet. I'd estimate he played about 40-50% game time. When he was on the ground, he was excellent. Obviously the conditioning staff wanted him to have minimal game time because he was one of our best when he was on the ground."


Music to my ears... :smoking:



Did Joseph play??? I haven't read a single thing about him.......

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:54 am 
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Some enjoyably astute posts for a tactics tragic such as myself :thumbsup: Both positive and slightly negative.

Just as it was premature to cut your wrists over the last game it is also not wise to get that excited about the win. For all that it is fun to lay the boots into the Prophets of Doom and conspiracy theorists, they will quite rightly point out that the Lions were missing most of their creative drive in Black, Power, Drummond and Rich. They would not only make a difference in ball winning ability, but also in delivery to the forwards (was still happy with our tall backs though). In saying that Waite and Murph will be vital this season to our goal scoring ability. They will be a huge challenge for us in the season proper especially without Judd :sad:

Just take the game as it should be and I'm pleased to say a number of posters have. A chance for a bit of experimentation, building match fitness etc etc...although winning is nice as well :grin:

I fully expect us to tread water in terms of ladder position this season, but I do expect a fair bit of improvement in some of the younger blokes. Which to me is a double edged sword, because I think some of the guys coming through will supplant a few blokes that I have a bit of time for and others that I had higher expectations of...but thats footy I guess.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:02 am 
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jimmae wrote:

Everything looks in good shape as well tune up for Richmond. Be afraid Tiges, be very afraid. :cool:


Good report Jim. More sugar than I could ever muster :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

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