When Fev was at Hendo's age - Fev wasn't good enough and almost got traded/sacked for not being good enough.
I know that Hendo isn't good enough atm and must be given match time so he can develop. How good he gets - time will tell but he sucked last night.
Santy is our only viable FF option if we want Waite in the bakline.
Basically without Fev taking 2-3 players out of the forward line, we suck balls.

Can't believe some of the crap that's pouring out in this thread. Classic knee-jerk reactions. By the sounds of things people were expecting Henderson to play like Wayne Carey circa 1996. Give Henderson a break...he's played 17 games of footy, not many as a forward, and it was his first hit-out in the navy blue. It is the NAB Cup isn't it? Where younger players can gain some match time and experience before the season proper. Let him become accustomed to the way some of our guys play first before we start spewin over Fevola. I can assure you Fevola would have had an ordinary night if he were playing for us. The fact is the delivery into the forward line was average...which is not ideal for any leading forward. People say it's going to be a long year ahead for us, well write us off at your peril...just don't forget to jump back on when we make the eight.

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They should have sacked him right then!

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Don't blame the fwd structure.

Even Fev at his best would of struggled to get near it the way we delivered the ball inside 50. We were slow, indirect and our delivery was woeful.

Does anyone know how many marks were taken inside 50 for the game last night?

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You're too modest

Synbad = 23 negative posts so far in this thread. He's having a field day

He would have had a ball in '81 and '82. Our pre-seasons were a big worry then.

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I thought I would not contribute today but alas again I cannot help myself.

Henderson to me on that performance showed enough to suggest;
1. He needs to bulk up a bit, was pushed of the ball a bit too easily - expected.
2. From what I could see on tv, he lead well and multiple leads where possbile.
3. His 1st, 2nd and 3rd efforts where first class.
4. His marking and kicking, when we gave him a chance , he did it.
He showed he can play the position and contribute. He might or might not be a star, time will tell but I am more confident then not with Hendo that he will play CHF for CFC in many years to come.

Second point ... side was rusty and we went down by what 2 goals. We all know we struggle against the swans game yet not one person acknowledged this or even more importantly paid credit to our guys for doing well and even in most parts of the game winning the contests about 80% of the game. We lost the game in one 15 minute patch in the 3rd. Big deal. We will get better and on that performance ARE BETTER than last year even.!

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Good sensible post Doc.
It was clear that we weren't playing with much intensity.

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I'm usually not one to jump up and down at the sight of a shadow, but that was woeful.

Two things give me vague hope.

1: The midfield was woeful. I refuse to believe they will be that bad in the regular season. They gave the forwards no chance.

2: Riley said after the intra-club all about long kicks to the forward line - and we saw none of that last night, so maybe we were holding something back.

But other than that, I must say that I now hold grave fears for this season. Too much chipping along wings and going backwards. None of it had changed. Sooner or later, we all have to acknowledge Synners is right - Ratts has had 50-plus games, and the problems remain the same. Do we magically expect them to be fixed at some mysterious point in time? Ummmmm.... I'm not convinced. I think we're in big trouble.

Congrats to WH on Davies and Lucas though - both looked like great pick ups (don't agree with the poster who said Rohan and Jetta were heaps better - they just played in a better organised team, so had a bigger chance to shine). And I thought Henderson was fine. Contested well, and gave us something to aim at around CHF. Now if only the midfield could deliver then he might achieve something.

Us 3
Them 4

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rubbish
Fevola had a great footy brain . He did things that made you think. He is going to be good.

You can just tell

We seemed resigned to be competitive and still lose and get Walks, Betts, Hoops back for R1 so mission accomplished.
Channel 10 despite being unable to show any statistics , did mention at one stage the inside 50 kicking efficiency at less than 40% which makes it hard for leading forwards.
People are critical of Hendo/Kreuz but I'd suggest Fevola would have had seven tantrums by quarter time with the skills coming in. When Robbo brought it in quick and with some depth on the kick Hendo ran back and made it count. How many times did Fev run back on to deep kicks? Once it was over his lead it was rebound and hands on your socks. Waitey will change the look totally at CHF.
Getting Sydney was great because they are hard work to play against and will be an excellent reminder of work rate and positioning required against the Swans clogs and stopages. We always seem to struggle against them and the Crowbots discipline.
(from TV) it looked like some players were unsure of what their role was, which although still Feb I thought seemed a contrast to the Swans. Nice to be unpredictable, but not to your own teammates. Four rucks in that humidity was not really picking a team to win.

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This game reeked of the Freo game on the Goldie last year - little intensity, zippo from fwd line (Fev 1 goal). Went up there, too. Easier to take this time being first hit out and the forward line experiment etc.

Some thoughts:

Bower - You gun, AA CHB this year
Hendo - Needs to get stronger (disappointed at how fragile he looked) but knows how to get around a fwd line. Will be far better with guys like Waite/Carlos around him. Great signs.
Yarran - well done WH, it was obvious we had to get NATURAL goalkickers into the place and this was the guy for us. Superstar qualities. He and Eddie, what a combo.
Browne - great trier, but delusional to think that Army will not waltz back into a hbf. Missed his run and mongrel last night.
Grigg - worried about a kid I've always had time for. Crucial year, fingers crossed.
McLean - good grief, let's hope he needed the run.
Backline - exceptional, one of the BEST in the AFL with Army in the wings.
Waite - crucial he can play fwd asap after he returns. A goalkicker. Fwd lline will look very different with him around.
Walker, Simmo, Murphy - what a difference these three will make. Based on intra, Walker could be top 5 in B&F this year.
Jacobs - respectable, but want Hammo to have his gig when the real thing starts. Nice back up.
Davies - nice work WH, very promising start, has all the tools.

Will really enjoy watching this team evolve in 2010, so much to work with.

Thanks DUC!

Just shows how hard it was last night.

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In other news.

I liked Warnock at ground level.
Hammer wasn't on much?
We really missed murphy, simmo, walker in the middle

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Richmond were looking like winners at that stage of the trade .... hang on

Spot on.

Does anyone know what the game plan is? Cause I don't.

Browne can't use the ball well enough for AFL level.

Our tall fwds only young but last night was a worry, a real worry. Kruez maybe not a fwd after all, struggles to hold contested marks, as does hendo. I know it's harsh cuse they're young, time will tell. All I;m saying is our fwdline was hopeless last night, a fact.

Only silver lining is Waite, Betts n Setanta are our most experiecned fwds now, and they didn't play.

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Interesting the players missing. Last night we lacked runners, and I mean gut runners, add Walker, Simmo, Armfield, Murphy + the dash of Waite and we are a different side.

Am i the only person who thinks that Fisher getting injured is a good thing for us???

We will not progress this year with him in the forward line.

Meanwhile, I know we all said that losing Fev would hurt but last night's efforts up forward were even worse than i was anticipating.

Our whole season rests on Jarrad Waite!!!

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It's only feb, but everyone is in the same situation.
Some other teams just look like they know how to play footy.

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Can some of these poster who say we have no structure give me a detailed description of what the Swans structure was last night because I'm in the mood for a good laugh

they have two of the best coaches in the business and they looked just as disorganized as we did

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