Was he wearing pants? If not, shameful. Just shameful.

But seriously thanks to those above for the passionate, intelligent and articulate posts. Even though we've never met bondi, it kinda breaks my heart to see you so disappointed by the amatuerish and to be blunt, disrespectful attitude of the club to its supporters. It breaks my heart because to your great credit you an are eternally optimistic, persuasive and positive voice on these here boards, and these are the kind of people you want working with you.

As everyone has already said before, all it takes is leadership and a change in attitude and perspective.
The fact that these things aren't hard and can be implemented at a low cost leaves me with some hope that it will be improved soon (but I'm not going to hold my breath).

Oh, and like Dane I think it's a bit poor whenever someone isolates a particular generation as a causal scape-goat (people tend to forget that they were raised by another generation). But many thanks for providing an explanation bondi .

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STURDYISM!!

As Muse and billy highlighted, it doesn't take much effort, just display the human qualities that bondi mentioned and acknowledge your supporters.

Some at the club visit here and I hope they take note of very important feedback like you have posted bondi

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C'mon Blueboys!

From the AFL web site ... it looks like we are going to be quite light on down the back line.

Missing will be:

Scotland

Jamo

Thornton

Wiggins

Joseph

Got a feeling we will lose this one.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

where does it say that?

the team list is still showing the 29 man squad?

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Looked everywhere for this information.
It's not on the AFL website ASAICS.
Where did you get the goss?

Scotland, Jamo, Thornton looked good yesterday at training.

I can't see why they'd take them to Sydney with a view to not play them.

There were a few players I couldn't spot yesterday and asumed the 3 not playing weren't there.
Assuming they were, then you list 5 players reportedly missing. That leaves us 2 short.

I don't believe this post is accurate.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Ther's a 23 man team listed http://www.afl.com.au/Premiership/Seaso ... ureid=5424

But Scotland Thornton and Wiggins are in it? Jamison isn't though

Yep, that's what every encounter with a Carlton player or official should be like....a moment/ day to remember.

Now get you act together CFC officialdom, or give the job of growing the brand to someone who cares....and lets just focus developing players as better footballers and better people, not snobs.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Jamison is there. Fourth from the bottom.

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Circumstance has no value. It is how one relates to a situation that has value. All true meaning resides in the personal relationship to a phenomenon, what it means to you.

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I have nothing further to add..........for now.

Maybe it's not appearing correctly for me. I've got no players listed after Goodes and Wiggins respectively

im still seeing all 29 players listed

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Sorry ... I went to here ...

http://xml.afl.com.au/swf/live_stats.ht ... D=10270106


Then I selected teams ... and none of the following are listed.

Scotland

Jamo

Thornton

Wiggins

Joseph

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

that list has bryce gibbs at FF and brock mclean at CHF

also has warnock as C

forget it

it also says the match starts in 7 hours

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

So the 3 missing names from the squad are:

Jamison (but Davies will be there to support Thornton and Bower)
Ellard
Wiggins


Still a damn good team.....shows our depth.

Well I'm leaving with the mad Carlton gang at 4pm.
Get the kids into the footy clinic at 5.40pm whilst I have a few beers
The it's on.

I hope we're ready for this game. On paper we should win.
We're Carlton so we play to win. Right?
Wrong says Houla Bettsy and Walks...and I don't blame them

GO BLUEBAGGERS

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

The other link given still lists 29 players ... so I am confused.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

That's bril!!

They wish....

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The problem will be made. for the solution to be sold, to your face before your eyes, tolerance is now the new danger

If Wiggo isn't playing, then it's obvious they're not taking the match seriously.

I'll try and give some "Special Comments" type updates through the match. Might even include pics if I can work out how. Gotta love iPhones and 3G.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

From the CFC site...... no Wiggo?


http://www.carltonfc.com.au/tabid/11437 ... &display=0

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.