Hmm, that is why I said SORRY !!!

I don't want to harp on it, but he was by far the most dissapointing thing to come out of yesterday in my view.

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But it's not just about the squib incident. Maybe you don't read too well, or you read selectivly. It's also about not attacking the ball. Numerous times the ball was kicked to him, and he had first dibbs on winning the ball, but he chose to go slow, and hope the ball came to him, instead of attacking the ball. It's a crucial error and he seriously needs to sort it out. Call is laziness or complacency or whatever, but it was clear as day and I am not the only one who saw it.

Look, it's about hunger, wanting the ball, attacking the ball, not waiting for it to come to you on a silver platter.

I'm more frustrated about this than the squib to be honest. Maybe he didn't want to get hurt bec it was after all a intra club game. I can understand that rationale. It's just that the squib incident and the refusal to go and attack the contest and win the ball with hunger, happened in the one afternoon, so it didn't look good at all.

All he has to do is show a hungre and zest, a determination to win the ball when it is near him, and he will be OK. He'd better change that mindset in his next outing.

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I read just fine VB - including the two posts where you've said you don't want to harp on about it...

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I understand where you are coming from VB.

You are just highlighting areas of Yarran's game which didn't impress you yesterday.
You feel that Yarran should lift his intensity and attack the ball. That's your gut feel.
Perhaps that was the issue with his futile attempt to mark: lacking intensity. I think most posters who have reported on the match from all the Carlton forums agree with you.

I wasn't at the game, but I am intersted on both schools of thought, in fact, everyone's opinion is of interest to me.

It's an interesting observation VB, because those who have watched him train or play his handful of games don't deny his skill level, but there is one constant question about Yarran, and that's his intensity. Some hope it's a laconic style, some hope he is making it look easy, others say he's still very young.

Whatever the case, similar concerns of Yarran have been consistently highlighted in 2009 and so far in 2010.

Yarran's still very young: equivalent of a first year player (19yo), Nevertheless, there should be areas of his game which he will need to work on like every footballer, including Judd. Maybe VB has pinpointed those areas which need attention.

Judd for example missed 5 easy passes at the training session I saw him...and they were easy. He seems toi have taken this into the intra club game. They say, what you do at training will be reflected on match day. So even Judd needs to sharpen the sword before round 4 (for him).

Some posters think training is just a procession, but there's more to training than that. That's where you practise, where you hone your skills, where you learn where what to do.

The season is closing in on us and there's only a month of the preseason to go, by the sound of things there's definetely areas of our game we all need to practise on.

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Gibbs, Kreuzer and Russell are recent names that come to mind as players who have ducked their heads in contest in their early years.

He'll get over it.

It is not the first time Yazza has squibbed a contest

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IMO all that has been said, positive and negative aboutYarran is relevant and in many ways correct as I see it
We need to remember he has come a long way in 12 months. I can remembr reporting on the 7th of January last year that he was as lazy as any footballer I had seen, even at club level in the 3.2 run around PP. He was 150m last and jogging.

But he now shows a level of commitment, although not professionally ideal, far better than it was. Lets wait and see.

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Are you related?

He had problems with that word as well.



But keep trashing the kid because after all you are still 'Sorry' I guess.

Regards Cazzesman

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i remember Fev doing that quite alot of about 4 or 5 seasons ....he too was pretty well built... didnt stop him from being a star.
Some people arent used to physicality.
Daniel Motlop.
Nick Dal Santo early on didnt like attention .

Actually quite a few players are like that especially many of the indigenous footballers who like a free spitirited game of footy.

But that doesnt mean a player wont become a star.. or improve .
It does mean though its not a natural part of their game to put their head over the ball.

Pretty sure youve seen Yarran also do things others cant do... well i have

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The only person happy with the way this thread is going is JR.

Good Luck Yazz you're in for a rough ride on TC for at least the next two years. Not that that'll worry you i'm sure.

I for one think you'll come through.

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One of the greatest sqibs ever would have to be Craig Bradley, but what a gun, just watched a replay of a 1993 final against the Crows where he dogged it big time and then came out after half time and destroyed the crows with five second half goals, interesting also in a match against the Bears where a young Michael Voss dogged it big time when confronted by Andy McKay. Its good watching the old games and watching different aspects of revered players as if they were playing today , they would be hounded down as hacks. Bottom line footballers are human not machines.

For someone that doesn't want to hapr on it, you've now mentioned that he ducked his head and squibbed it ............... 5 times. If that's not hapr-ing, I don't know what is. (We might even have to call you Hapro.....)

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..interesting comment.. ..not judging this [i agree in fact], more just highlighting this.. ..because Stevens and Hoops copped flak for being 'soft/outside' players of known dual sided skill.. ..i don't think the silky players should be under packs doing the grunt work, but every now and then they need to be.. ..Yazz needs to show some hustle, get some urgency about the way he plays because he has speed and agility and skill, he needs to use it more often, if not all the time.. ..otherwise he won't get by on cameo brilliance no player can now days.. ..still early days but his playing style isn't AFL tempo, aside from a bit of flash and dash..

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Intraclub, yer.

I was there, and I dont know what everyone is talking about. Yeh, he did not get much of the ball, but when he did time stood still. I also saw him on several occassions fight for the ball.

Its a practice match against your teammates. Why kill yourself ?

Doesnt play with enough hustle just yet. Looked to blow up a bit yesterday also. This will all change as he logs up more game time.
Saw Lappin change from a lazy footballer to an intense player in just one quarter back in the late nineties.

It will click for Yarran.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

did you watch the adeliade game round 22 last year.

he had 3 or 4 tackles which were rewarded holding the ball.

he was one of the few positives to come from the insidpid performance and was very stiff to get dropped for the final.

i didn't see the intra club incident but confidence can play a big roll for players. people still label gibbs soft from other clubs because he didn't put his head over the footy in one instance in his first season.

not everyone is glenn archer. yaz will come on. maybe it's just confidence and i'm sure he would be his harshest critic.

no need to harp on it mate.