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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:11 am 
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keogh wrote:

As SOs said players mature at different rates
So how about finding some of those
Late bloomers from the other comps
Bush
Interstate
I much rather give someone a chance
For the first time than watch
Mullet
OShea
Shaw turn it over
Stewart could be All Australian this year
Kelly is a gun mid


I'm sure we could turn good players like Stewart and Kelly into duds...lol. We develop players so poorly. Getting good players is one thing, developing them is another.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:12 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.



As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:16 am 
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kennyhunter wrote:
SOS also whinged when he did the radio rounds a few weeks ago about no other list manager having to front up like he was.
Has a bit of a point but ... he’s an AFL champion orchestrating an unprecedented list rebuild at a former competition powerhouse where he made his name and, for a number of reasons, it seems to casual observers (and some keen observers) to be at risk of going pear shaped.
These guys need to be accountable. To supporters if no one else. There’s not much more Bolts can cliche, sorry, say ...
Good on SOS for fronting but he needs to suck it up and “if they are all in this together”, everyone should be coming out to keep selling the message. This bloke could well determine the future of the Love of football waning thread.
Great he was feisty and thought he handled himself fairly well but could have answered a few questions better. He’s not a natural but seems to have improved in front of the cameras. Being so openly and consistently questioned this year would be new territory for him. And he was ultra defensive. Maybe could have focused more of the positives and the “wins” of his list rebuild.
The pressure is going to be immense on every deal he does this trade period.
Had Caro lined up over the henchman stuff but everyone knows he wields more power than he will ever admit.
Was good telly.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:16 am 
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The key point for me is:
"We are rebuilding to win a premiership, if we were rebuilding to come 8th we would already be there!"
CB
P.S. Also hinted they were close to resigning Cripps :clap:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:20 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:21 am 
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BIBI01 wrote:
After tonight if anyone can't see what the plan was and still is, they will never get it, this is a marathon not a sprint .



I totaLly agree
But we are coming from such a long way due to the baffoons who
Ran the club prior to ML G took over
No stone should be left unturned in getting the right players
To the club
So far I’m am less than convinced even given the mess
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:22 am 
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Coach B wrote:
The key point for me is:
"We are rebuilding to win a premiership, if we were rebuilding to come 8th we would already be there!"
CB
P.S. Also hinted they were close to resigning Cripps :clap:

Yes. It resonated didn't it. :thumbsup:
God it is hard though. What a year!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:27 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR

What a great post. :clap: :thanks:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:27 am 
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Reckon the Gold Coast list management is worth putting under the microscope, but sadly the media hasn’t told me who their list boss is. I expect that person’s next in the “hot seat”.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:28 am 
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OR...Do you know if we are addressing medical staff/rehab approaches?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:29 am 
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You can only draft what's available and jury out on 2015. Mills and hipwood were zoned, of the rest CC and Oliver are guns but a career is 12 years not 3 rest of top 20 still finding feet and all in much better sides than ours. GWS players were a steal for what we gave up and a few were part of deal to get them off GWS books. Pickett marchbank and Plowman will be good when fit and Phillips handy back up ruck. Hopefully Kennedy will be hard mid to help Cripps. Most of our young guys haven't improved because they are injured. Sos mistakes were getting O'Shea and Shaw - neither better than Simon white and mullet no better than BB or bucks. Also wouldn't mind if he rookies a ronke or two. We are 5 mids and a good run with injury away.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:31 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
SOS represented Carlton perfectly.

Since when does Carlton let the media dictate our agenda? Eddie doesn’t and would never allow the media to dictate the Pies agenda, why the @#$%&! should Carlton? Why should Caro & Lloyd be allowed to bully their way through our club unchallenged?

FFS even the Gold Coast president stands up for his club, right or wrong in an unwavering manner. The message it sends to players, members and those involved in the club is that publicly we support you.

There is a public message and a behind closed doors message - same theme, but delivered differently & for different purposes.

MLG & SOS are mates, so what.

They are both hard arsed high achievers and both want success. There’s ego’s etc but does anyone seriously think those involved at the club aren’t striving tirelessly for success?

Judd is a high achiever. He won’t allow his legacy to be tarnished by failure.

Behind closed doors there have been and continue to be serious, hard discussions and questioning of approach, performance and outcomes.

How many know the actual story behind Trigg’s departure? Easy to criticise from the cheap seats.

We have had more successes than busts in drafting / recruiting over the last 3 years. It is an imperfect multi faceted process.

SOS pointed out 5 trades where we have clearly come out well ahead. There are others where we have stuffed up, flower and shit stirrers focus on the stuff ups & ignore the successes.

He was at times defensive & aggressive, he was accurate. He’s not a media performer yet he performed well.

Lloyd’s comments at the end reinforced the commonly held view that he’s a cheap sniper.

Members have the right to question & seek answers but Caro & Lloyd don't have any right to peddle gossip & lies about our club. Blinkered cheap thinking needs to be called out for what it is & SOS did that.

On balance that interview was a win for Carlton.

OR


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:33 am 
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keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.



As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call



Hey Keogh,

It takes a reasonable amount of effort to refute some of your stuff but here goes;

Stewart was taken with the Cats 2nd pick in the 2016 draft, in order for Carlton to select him we would have had to pass on the selection of Fisher. Would you have done that?

To recruit a player of his ability in 2017 the Blues would need to use a similar pick. We instead used our 2nd Rd pick on TDK. .

Cam O'Shea was selected by the Blues in the 2017 pre - season draft.

Aaron Mullett was selected by the Blues in 2017 as a delisted free agent.

To criticise the Blues recruitment of O'Shea & Mullet as compared to Cats recruitment of Stewart is ridiculous. Each of them cost the Blues minimum chips, not a 2nd round selection in the draft.

In the 2017 pre season draft who would you have selected other than O'Shea?

Amongst the 2017 delisted free agents who would you have selected on similar terms to Mullett?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:46 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.



As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call



Hey Keogh,

It takes a reasonable amount of effort to refute some of your stuff but here goes;

Stewart was taken with the Cats 2nd pick in the 2016 draft, in order for Carlton to select him we would have had to pass on the selection of Fisher. Would you have done that?

To recruit a player of his ability in 2017 the Blues would need to use a similar pick. We instead used our 2nd Rd pick on TDK. .

Cam O'Shea was selected by the Blues in the 2017 pre - season draft.

Aaron Mullett was selected by the Blues in 2017 as a delisted free agent.

To criticise the Blues recruitment of O'Shea & Mullet as compared to Cats recruitment of Stewart is ridiculous. Each of them cost the Blues minimum chips, not a 2nd round selection in the draft.

In the 2017 pre season draft who would you have selected other than O'Shea?

Amongst the 2017 delisted free agents who would you have selected on similar terms to Mullett?


Fisher has been a great pickup
But I asked again to you and let’s see how you go here

Do we have anyone from the CFC overseeing the Geelong league in 2014 and beyond
Or
Goulburn
Or
Ovens and Murray
Tassie
Do we thoroughly look at what’s available in the other states

Surely there are at least a dozen blokes better that can
Run
Kick
Chase
Are better than OShea Mullett Shaw and another Four or five as well

You just don’t look passed your own navel
In this case what’s available at the previous club you were the recruiting
Officer and those players ripping it up in your shit reserves team
You look everywhere


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:05 am 
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keogh wrote:
[youtube][/youtube]
Ockham's Razor wrote:
keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.



As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call



Hey Keogh,

It takes a reasonable amount of effort to refute some of your stuff but here goes;

Stewart was taken with the Cats 2nd pick in the 2016 draft, in order for Carlton to select him we would have had to pass on the selection of Fisher. Would you have done that?

To recruit a player of his ability in 2017 the Blues would need to use a similar pick. We instead used our 2nd Rd pick on TDK. .

Cam O'Shea was selected by the Blues in the 2017 pre - season draft.

Aaron Mullett was selected by the Blues in 2017 as a delisted free agent.

To criticise the Blues recruitment of O'Shea & Mullet as compared to Cats recruitment of Stewart is ridiculous. Each of them cost the Blues minimum chips, not a 2nd round selection in the draft.

In the 2017 pre season draft who would you have selected other than O'Shea?

Amongst the 2017 delisted free agents who would you have selected on similar terms to Mullett?


Fisher has been a great pickup
But I asked again to you and let’s see how you go here

Do we have anyone from the CFC overseeing the Geelong league in 2014 and beyond
Or
Goulburn
Or
Ovens and Murray
Tassie
Do we thoroughly look at what’s available in the other states

Surely there are at least a dozen blokes better that can
Run
Kick
Chase
Are better than OShea Mullett Shaw and another Four or five as well

You just don’t look passed your own navel
In this case what’s available at the previous club you were the recruiting
Officer and those players ripping it up in your shit reserves team
You look everywhere


Did you get the arse from the Blues as a country league recruitment scout at the end of 2014? :wink:

In answer to your question, yes the Blues do have that covered.

In addition, over the the last 6 months the former National Recruiting Manager from the Swans & the recruitment manager from the Hawks have been added to the other 5 permanent recruitment staff at the Blues.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:06 am 
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I thought SOS was really good.
He may not have crafted the perfect answers to every question but with limited airtime he had to be selective.
Most importantly, he showed some of the competitive attitude the whole team needs to show.

If we had drafted Kelly or Stewart, I’ll bet they would not be playing so well without the stronger teams around them and then we’d be bagged for picking up mature age list cloggers. It’s a lot easier in hindsight.

How is Menzel going & Henderson? worth it for McKay, Plowman, Lamb & Phillips?
Tuohy is doing well and was a big loss but we ended up with Marchbank & Pickett.
Gibbs was a big loss - but we end up with O’Brien and pick 23 or 24 this year.
Tom Bell gets us Charlie Curnow.
Yarran more or less for Cunningham (we’ll see how Cunners goes but better than Yarran since then...)

So, our drafting has been pretty good. BUT ONLY ENABLED BY THE TRADING TO GET THE EXTRA EARLY PICKS.

Now let’s look at our outs and ins in past few years, excluding ‘natural’ draft picks we got like everyone else.

Outs 2015-2017:
Bell, Henderson, Holman, Menzel, Warnock, Watson, Russell, Walsh, Fields, Dick, Everitt, Foster, Gallucci, Gowers, Sheehan, Clem Smith, Tutt, Whitley, DVR, Touhy, Sumner, Jaksch, Smedts, White, Boekhorst, Buckley, Gibbs.

Who of those should we still have on our list - who would be part of our future or lifting our current performance materially?
I count two: Touhy & Gibbs (Henderson arguable). Holman is always a fringe player at best and maybe Gowers turns himself into a long term good player. Maybe.

Ins 2015-2017 (incl those enabled specifically by the outs above):
Curnow, McKay, Marchbank, Plowman, O’Brien, Pickett, Lamb, Phillips, Kerridge, Sumner, A Silvagni, Palmer, Smedts, Kennedy, Lang, Lobbe, Mullett, O’Shea

Who of these should be part of our future or lifts our current performance materially?
I count 7 definitely, 6 of them for the long term (A Silvagni short term only). And one could make a strong case for Lamb and Phillips lifting the team in the short term (I’m not convinced but the argument could be made...). And the jury is still out on Pickett and Lang (& Phillips, longer term).

So we are replacing crap with either good, maybe good or some we probably knew were crap but with a small chance they could be better than those they replaced (or we took them for other reasons e.g. draft points or to help in the reserves).

I think the ledger is thus far clearly in SOS’s favour.
I concede that questions remain about our development and, to be fair, our coaching. But I don’t buy into the bag SOS line of thinking.
I’m prepared to back Bolton. I think he will be proven to be the right choice but next year will be his final opportunity to do so.
I’m not convinced about our development capability and also worried about some of our assistants.
And I think the Football Manager appointment needs to be inspired.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:37 am 
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ColourMan wrote:
BigGartos wrote:
In SoS we trust.


Love the messiah complex...

Thanks for the insightful analysis of my mindset. Have we met?
When I posted this last night I didn't have time for the detailed analysis that others have now gone on to make.
My immediate point was that I felt uplifted by his appearance on the show, especially his combativeness and responses re the trading and drafting. There is a clear plan at the club and they are following it. Not every call has been perfect. Injuries have made it harder to demonstrate progress.
But they are united and have a clear plan.
You may see in my various posts, especially in VFL match threads, that my analysis is not tainted by my valuing of SoS's many contributions to this club.
By the way, the original Messiah never promised an easy journey and nor does SoS.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:38 am 
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SEN still reporting Lloyds brother favourite to be new footy manager.

Maybe thats what SOS was referring to when he said culture can disappear in 24 hours!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:45 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
keogh wrote:
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I don't have a problem with O'Shea.
We went through the National draft, decided there was nothing left to take and gave the last spot on our list to O'Shea. He won the NB B&F by a landslide and I like the concept of giving a list spot to the outstanding performer in the VFL. That philosophy will be rewarded by players coming to the NB's looking for a pathway.
He was never meant to play AFL. He was experience for the youngsters in the 2's. No different to Aaron Mullett. He cost us nothing as a delisted free agent. We have enough kids, we need mature bodies around them to give strength to the Northern Blues.

Look at the Northern Blues this year. They would be easily the youngest team running around. Players like O'Shea, Mullet etc, they're there to provide depth and leadership. If it wasn't for injuries, they wouldn't be near our AFL team. The last 2 spots on the list are a small price to pay IMO.



As usual you missed my points
Just because you win the b and f means almost jack shit

If you can’t run and kick your a liability at AFL level
Clearly Stewart can and O’Shea Shaw can’t
Mullet is soft
Your narrow minded philosophy is the main reason this club
Has been shit for over 15 years
Maybe we should give Scarlo a call



Hey Keogh,

It takes a reasonable amount of effort to refute some of your stuff but here goes;

Stewart was taken with the Cats 2nd pick in the 2016 draft, in order for Carlton to select him we would have had to pass on the selection of Fisher. Would you have done that?

To recruit a player of his ability in 2017 the Blues would need to use a similar pick. We instead used our 2nd Rd pick on TDK. .

Cam O'Shea was selected by the Blues in the 2017 pre - season draft.

Aaron Mullett was selected by the Blues in 2017 as a delisted free agent.

To criticise the Blues recruitment of O'Shea & Mullet as compared to Cats recruitment of Stewart is ridiculous. Each of them cost the Blues minimum chips, not a 2nd round selection in the draft.

In the 2017 pre season draft who would you have selected other than O'Shea?

Amongst the 2017 delisted free agents who would you have selected on similar terms to Mullett?


Fisher has been a great pickup
But I asked again to you and let’s see how you go here

Do we have anyone from the CFC overseeing the Geelong league in 2014 and beyond
Or
Goulburn
Or
Ovens and Murray
Tassie
Do we thoroughly look at what’s available in the other states

Surely there are at least a dozen blokes better that can
Run
Kick
Chase
Are better than OShea Mullett Shaw and another Four or five as well

You just don’t look passed your own navel
In this case what’s available at the previous club you were the recruiting
Officer and those players ripping it up in your shit reserves team
You look everywhere


Did you get the arse from the Blues as a country league recruitment scout at the end of 2014? :wink:

In answer to your question, yes the Blues do have that covered.

In addition, over the the last 6 months the former National Recruiting Manager from the Swans & the recruitment manager from the Hawks have been added to the other 5 permanent recruitment staff at the Blues.


No need to get personal
So the recruiting staff
Who have overseen the GFL
Reckon there is nobody better than
The three mentioned
That’s bullshit
How many games do the recruiters see
During the year
Interested to know


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