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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:01 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
Why don't we just get Jimmae to do it?



agreed. this process needs an oracle.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:02 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
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Jude Bolton or Dermie would be good.

I dont want Dermie because he thought Mick was good for us.
Cronieism.


And thought Gary Ayres should of got the job over Clarkson :confused:


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:03 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Heavs wrote:
Why don't we just get Jimmae to do it?



agreed. this process needs an oracle.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:06 pm 
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Fifteen years ago the process was Jack. When you own the Board you tell them what you have done after the event, not consult them beforehand as happens now. Benign dictatorship can work well but it can also fail horribly. Jack showed us both sides. Hmmm.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:16 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Heavs wrote:
Why don't we just get Jimmae to do it?



agreed. this process needs an oracle.


This process needs an oligarch.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:18 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Punter22 wrote:
Jude Bolton or Dermie would be good.

I dont want Dermie because he thought Mick was good for us.
Cronieism.


And thought Gary Ayres should of got the job over Clarkson :confused:


Dunstall had this to say back in 2004 when the pressure was on

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Hawks interim chief executive Jason Dunstall and his fellow coaching sub-committee faced stinging criticism for their performance in the coaching search, missing out on Terry Wallace and Rodney Eade and failing to get through to Mark Harvey.

"For us it was just a matter of keeping our nerve and staying committed to what we set out to do in the first place," Dunstall said.

"We're embarking on a youth policy and we want someone who can develop and teach and educate and nurture these people.

"We're not talking about a quick fix, this is about the club going forward and being set up for 2010."

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:19 pm 
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Dunstall is a bit of an oracle.


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:19 pm 
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I would not have thought a guy who is so obviously very much a part of a rival is a good choice.

The AFL biz in Melb is cut throat, he may well steer us down the wrong path.


AFAIK Dunstall has no longer has an official role with Hawthorn.

Seeking people from the outside is exactly what we should be doing.

I trust that someone like Dunstall would have the right character to fill the role with the honesty and integrity required.


Dunstall is an executive at the Renegades now?


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:22 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Punter22 wrote:
Jude Bolton or Dermie would be good.

I dont want Dermie because he thought Mick was good for us.
Cronieism.


And thought Gary Ayres should of got the job over Clarkson :confused:


Dunstall had this to say back in 2004 when the pressure was on

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Hawks interim chief executive Jason Dunstall and his fellow coaching sub-committee faced stinging criticism for their performance in the coaching search, missing out on Terry Wallace and Rodney Eade and failing to get through to Mark Harvey.

"For us it was just a matter of keeping our nerve and staying committed to what we set out to do in the first place," Dunstall said.

"We're embarking on a youth policy and we want someone who can develop and teach and educate and nurture these people.

"We're not talking about a quick fix, this is about the club going forward and being set up for 2010."


He did a fantastic job no doubt.

Good god, is anything made more clear by hindsight that a coaching selection?

You look at the names of some of the pumpkins that have got coaching appointments over the years and just think "what the absolute @#$%&! were they thinking?"

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 1:23 pm 
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If anyone external to the club was asked for and accepted a role on a selection committee, I can't imagine a scenario where they would give anything less than their total commitment to making the best possible recommendation.

I don't think there is a 'Carlton' group which could make the best possible decision. We've had no success in the modern game, and have never undertaken an open coaching selection process. They wouldn't know where to start.


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What about the 3 blokes on the tribunal who found the unfairly accused Essendon** players innocent of all charges?

They clearly have a track record of doing what's best for footy.


I'm comfortably satisfied with that...

Nobody on our panel that selected Bailey (RIP) at Melbourne... sometimes it doesn't work out...

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:23 pm 
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Have they explained how they went about signing the last two coaches yet?
What was their methodology exactly?

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:24 pm 
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Previous success?
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:34 pm 
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The Pokies has to go before any Board member!! It has turned our Club into a Junkyard full of addicts and Gambling drunks. Is this our way of Generating profit?


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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:43 pm 
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POKIES = Caaaaaaaachinnnnnnnng!

Mick was like other senior citerzens spending too much time on the pokies and not on the things that matter.
In Mick's case that was coaching the team.

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#GAGF!

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:46 pm 
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Dukes wrote:
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Everybody is amused with where the club is at...
It's even bizarrely amusing to some of us.. Simply because.. How did it come to this?


15 years in the making. We got it wrong by not putting Wayne Brittain through a selection process and we've been stuffing it up ever since!

Lol, it's never happened in 151 years....let's not make this a microcosm of recent history

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:46 pm 
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Maybe a design with those letters within themselves like the Carlton football club emblem on a navy background..
Do we have any designers?
I know we lost my mate Cretylus and his amazing Photoshop skills but there must be someone else.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 2:46 pm 
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People are just throwing up names with no process.

I believe we need an Independent Selection Committee to go through a thorough process to decide who should then sit on the Independent Selection Committee....

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