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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:11 am 
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put the club at the pointy end of sports medicine.


I know a club that tried this

The tagline on the flyer would be “A facility to rival Doha… everything but the intravenous vitamins”

The gait lab set up in the Cordy era was ahead of it’s time. Undone by the size of the market and proximity to subsidised alternatives.

With the tunnel making a mess of the hospital’s imaging facilities, the club can get on the rebate teat. Perhaps even add a group of courses to the College of Sport.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:54 pm 
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Id concur in that I have generally preferred working for chicks and not just for the letching. I'm not that old a bogan but some of the dudes have been absolute jack ass dinosaurs

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:32 am 
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So it wasn’t his dick according to the AFL integrity unit which is the ultimate wet lettuce leaf but resigns 5 minutes later.
Pushed by CFC the AFL or both

Bottom line is Sayers was a relic from our past
He wasn’t the type of President we needed now
That’s because his character had to come into question in regards to the PWC tax scandals where he came out of that relatively unscathed compared to others below him

His quest to get Ross Lyon to coach Carlton was outdated and plain dumbarse

Patty Kinnersly hopefully sends us into a new positive direction if appointed
I don’t want Fitzpatrick as someone alluded to
Another relic past his used by date
Embarrassingly so the club looks pretty pathetic now
But it could have all been avoided if he wasn’t President in the first place


It was me who mentioned Mike F.

Don’t want him? Justify your response? I agree with Tom Elliot that Mike is an ideal candidate. He’s had my vote for years.

Ok
Essentially 3 reasons
Yes he knows a lot about footy on and off the field with much experience.
But to me he comes across with too much aloofness.
He is also getting on. Now that’s not a disadvantage if you have your faculties and marbles in check but it is if you’re living in the past. I personally as a supporter want to club to move away from that. It hasn’t worked with previous icons in administration roles at the club
Thirdly I want a woman at the helm compared to a bloke
Why
Because in my 62 years 45 years working with people in various forms women are
Better listeners
Better communicators
Better at multi tasking
Better at judging people which 90% of time is based on not what you actually say
Less ego driven

Kinnersly fits the bill
Besides being a woman she has all these traits
She has had experience at board level
Her football experience and experience in business is first class
Personally I thought Sayers was a bit of a tool
His handling of the Ross Lyon pending coaching appointment by Carlton was dumb and outdated
It also lacked perception
Now my mail was when Sayers went back to the board to get Lyon’s appointment approved it was Kinnersly who voted against it and it had to be unanimous.
Obviously the hush money to the woman who was allegedly sexually harassed by Lyon at a Dockers function had something to do with Kinnersly saying no to him given her position at Our Watch
But clearly she also new Lyon was passed it as a coach
To win a flag you have to be top 4 to 6 in scores against
Something Lyon achieves nearly every year he has coached teams
But you generally have to be in the top half for scoring
In the last 2 years the Saints have been the fourth worst scoring team. Nothing has changed and they get 2 defenders with top 15 draft picks. SOS is Lyons mate and guess where he ends up
He is a smug arrogant character who was employed essentially by another bloke
Andrew Basset
Like Sayers a successful businessman who embodies all of those stupid male traits I
just mentioned.

If it wasn’t for her Lyon would be our coach
What do you think of that?

Bottom line I want to club to have a new direction
Sayers to his credit was better than Mark, Sticks etc
but to me the club is still stuck in the past if Fitzpatrick gets the job
It’s 30
Years and counting


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:52 pm 
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Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.
Get the best person for the job. No matter the gender.

Personally I'm amazed there's not a field falling over themselves to take the role. The club is primed for take off IMHO. Finances and list composition in a great spot. If you want to be part of something big. There hasn't been a better time for 25 + years.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:59 pm 
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Personally I'm amazed there's not a field falling over themselves to take the role.


There was a few weeks back before they realised a history of dick pics wasn’t the CV highlight they’d thought it was.

All of them withdrew at that point.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 11:27 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.
Get the best person for the job. No matter the gender.

Personally I'm amazed there's not a field falling over themselves to take the role. The club is primed for take off IMHO. Finances and list composition in a great spot. If you want to be part of something big. There hasn't been a better time for 25 + years.


Blue Vain I get what your saying
Also i believe the world would be a better place if more women were in leadership positions
For the reasons I said
The biggest negative trait men possess far more than women is self ego
So important for a President these days to not have one or if they do to
park it in reserved section
From what I have observed Kinnersly is a far better well rounded individual to preside over the organization than any the men that have been mentioned
Sayers ego you might say probably got in the way


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:34 am 
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Best person for President thanks ! Regardless of what's in their undies !

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 1:40 pm 
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Even a #2?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 2:39 pm 
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Shit joke.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:01 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.
Get the best person for the job. No matter the gender.

Personally I'm amazed there's not a field falling over themselves to take the role. The club is primed for take off IMHO. Finances and list composition in a great spot. If you want to be part of something big. There hasn't been a better time for 25 + years.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:19 pm 
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Heh heh, he said "box".

Where is tommi lately?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2025 7:35 pm 
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Even a #2?


:lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:24 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.


Smorgo, Sticks, MLG… not sure, given our track record of appointing presidents, maybe choosing someone upon supposed baseless generalisations might work for the better.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:08 am 
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camel wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.


Smorgo, Sticks, MLG… not sure, given our track record of appointing presidents, maybe choosing someone upon supposed baseless generalisations might work for the better.


:grin: I understand it's a tongue in cheek comment but in reality, I'm not sure too many were "appointed" from a wide field. Several over recent years have been the only ones willing to put their hands up.
I suspect a lot off supporters are confused about what being a board member or President actually entails. I've read posts where people believe they're paid employees. There are benefits but it's also about putting up a shitload of your time and resources to assist the club. Time and resources you could be providing to your family, career or anything else instead.
Much like you and many others do with TC, Jars and the many other silent contributors do on Blueseum or people like Cazzesman did in the recruiting space. It's easy for people who give @#$%&! all to criticise those who give a lot.
A lot of past board members have made mistakes but I'm reluctant to shitcan volunteers who have made the effort for the club.

As I mentioned earlier, it's the perfect time for someone to cherry pick the role when success is possible. Hopefully we get the best person with the right credentials and the right intentions. Don't narrow the field down by 50% because you want a specific gender without serious basis.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:50 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
Heh heh, he said "box".

Where is tommi lately?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:49 pm 
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I want the best person for the job too. Obviously
And it doesn’t go unnoticed to me that it’s is on a voluntary basis. At the same time I don’t want someone who is dodgy. In the end they get found out.
Sayers did some good things for the club but should never have been President given he was CEO of one of the 4 major accounting firms who were found guilty of tax fraud
Sayers was great with the BS and as is customary for someone who is good at that got away with murder pleading ignorance starts his own company and receives more money from the government for consulting whilst other PWC employees suffered
Eventually a person with a big ego will have the Karma bus visit him
How @#$%&! embarrassing is it as a supporter of the club how he has left

In the world of any team sport as it constantly changes one thing stays the same
If a person thinks their bigger than the club your [REDACTED]

Fitzpatrick isn’t the right fit. He comes across as a snob. Fitzpatrick doesn’t seem like a people person to me. You have to have that trait to be a good President.
The job involves many things buts essentially presiding over the organisation making sure everyone feels valued and trusted.
I don’t want Priestley because he lives in Sydney.
I prefer a Melbourne person

I don’t want someone who is past it.
Given Kinnersly’s line of work how she carries herself she makes a good fit.
Plus she has been there for a while which would make the transition easier
She may not want the job anyway from what I’ve read.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:17 pm 
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Kinnersly’s top priority has been the women’s program, which is a shambles.

Cook’s successor is already in the building. Why not him?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:40 pm 
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Fitzpatrick would be perfect - but has always publicly said he doesn’t want the job.

Left field suggestion would be Ian “Teddy” Prendergast, was previously Chief Commercial Officer and our General Counsel - not sure where he is now - maybe a little young and probably too busy in his professional life to commit the time required - but maybe one to consider for at least a Board position in the future.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:59 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
Heh heh, he said "box".

Where is tommi lately?
Yes, where is tommi?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:34 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Give me a break. You can't pick a President based upon baseless generalisations.
Get the best person for the job. No matter the gender.

Personally I'm amazed there's not a field falling over themselves to take the role. The club is primed for take off IMHO. Finances and list composition in a great spot. If you want to be part of something big. There hasn't been a better time for 25 + years.


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