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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:48 pm 
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Importantly, this years AGM sets out to rectify the mistakes of the past by re-incorporating Country & Interstate members as Ordinary members. Other than that it's business as usual - shouldn't be much more of substance to report.

More importantly, I'll be hanging around for a beer afterwards.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:08 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Importantly, this years AGM sets out to rectify the mistakes of the past by re-incorporating Country & Interstate members as Ordinary members. Other than that it's business as usual - shouldn't be much more of substance to report.

More importantly, I'll be hanging around for a beer afterwards.

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Me too!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:57 am 
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Our Annual report sure is a professional looking document...

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:17 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Importantly, this years AGM sets out to rectify the mistakes of the past by re-incorporating Country & Interstate members as Ordinary members...


This will mean voting rights, right?

Bravo!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:14 am 
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"member venue Revenue"
I take it this is a nice way of saying revenues received from Poker machines?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:09 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Our Annual report sure is a professional looking document...


Saving the $$$

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:32 pm 
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dane wrote:
Saving the $$$


You'd think with all the players Moody Aboughattas introduced to the printing industry to supplement their salaries that we could get something decent at mates rates. Hopefully something is in the offing for season 150.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:49 pm 
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tv ratings up... sponsorship $$$ down


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:10 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
tv ratings up... sponsorship $$$ down


Yes. Expected though.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:39 pm 
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Looks like we're all set to re-finance our debt in 2014, again.

Yes there were contracts to be paid out over the last 12 months, but we're not going to make payment on 5 million+ by October 2014. It's not unexpected at all, and revenue will increase next year most likely, but as EY pointed out in their notes, they need to stop leaving the financials out on the line by relying on income in advance or further loans as the gap between current income and expenses.

We're just positive of cash-neutral, which means if something goes slightly wrong, we're a bit [REDACTED]. Next year should be about slowing the football spend a bit given we have acquired a lot of equipment and IP over the last 4-6 years that in most cases doesn't need to renewed or repurchased for up to another 8-20 years. If our spending habits continue to grow then we are absolutely hopeless as a football club because we'll be burning on cash on things we don't need.

Halving our debt next year is an achievable target; wiping almost all of it out would be a good result.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:48 pm 
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Brief read of the Annual Report:

Page 31 of the Annual Report:

Mr Farouh Income as Director $1106 but cost the Club $254,061 expenses through related transactions with the Club

Ms Pratt Income $1,141,867 but expenses $512,447

Mr Kernahan Income $54,590 Expenses $107,598

Can any one explain why Directors should cost the Club through expenses? Should they not be bringing money in?

Also the debt looks like $5.9 million - Has Richmond wiped its debt of this year?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:40 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Brief read of the Annual Report:

Page 31 of the Annual Report:

Mr Farouh Income as Director $1106 but cost the Club $254,061 expenses through related transactions with the Club

Ms Pratt Income $1,141,867 but expenses $512,447

Mr Kernahan Income $54,590 Expenses $107,598

Can any one explain why Directors should cost the Club through expenses? Should they not be bringing money in?

Also the debt looks like $5.9 million - Has Richmond wiped its debt of this year?


They're not Director's expenses. They are transactions that the club has put through a business or entity that the Director is associated with. For instance, in Fahour's case it would be any money the club spent with Australia Post. In Kernahan's case, it would be any money the club spent with Kernahan's printing company.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:19 am 
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Wage bill goes up 4.15%~
Super contributions only go up 1.12% even with a mandatory increase of .25% on the SG halfway through the year.
Wage bill of 20,548,578. Super contributions of 1,188, 546. Contributions of 5% per employee?

And yes, the biggest contributor to the rise in that wage bill was eligible to receive super payments...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:44 am 
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Super only gets paid on the salary component of a salary package which should explain the diferrence.
A package could consist of salary, car, bonuses etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:01 am 
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JohnM wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Brief read of the Annual Report:

Page 31 of the Annual Report:

Mr Farouh Income as Director $1106 but cost the Club $254,061 expenses through related transactions with the Club

Ms Pratt Income $1,141,867 but expenses $512,447

Mr Kernahan Income $54,590 Expenses $107,598

Can any one explain why Directors should cost the Club through expenses? Should they not be bringing money in?

Also the debt looks like $5.9 million - Has Richmond wiped its debt of this year?


They're not Director's expenses. They are transactions that the club has put through a business or entity that the Director is associated with. For instance, in Fahour's case it would be any money the club spent with Australia Post. In Kernahan's case, it would be any money the club spent with Kernahan's printing company.


Ok. Thanks

I understand Carlton may receive its printing material from Stick's business.

What would Carlton be wishing to spend money on Australia Post? $254,061 is a lot of Carlton letters considering we have an Internet policy at Carlton. :razz:

What would Carlton be wishing to spend money on Visy?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:08 am 
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woof wrote:
Super only gets paid on the salary component of a salary package which should explain the diferrence.
A package could consist of salary, car, bonuses etc.


True - based on those numbers though, the average package is 60/40 salary? With the changes to car leasing and FBT/having Hyundai as a major sponsor, what sort of manager is promoting that sort of uncertainty on a salary package that sees almost half their wage as being questionable? And I'm sure that figure inflates much more once you take rank and file employees out of the question

Probably just being naive here as to how most AFL contracts are structured, but that's a tremendous amount of uncertainty.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:46 am 
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Can anyone enlighten me as to what an ASF Grant is?

*listed under Other Income - ASF Grants. 2012: $321,220 up to $767,695 in 2013.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:03 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
JohnM wrote:
Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Brief read of the Annual Report:

Page 31 of the Annual Report:

Mr Farouh Income as Director $1106 but cost the Club $254,061 expenses through related transactions with the Club

Ms Pratt Income $1,141,867 but expenses $512,447

Mr Kernahan Income $54,590 Expenses $107,598

Can any one explain why Directors should cost the Club through expenses? Should they not be bringing money in?

Also the debt looks like $5.9 million - Has Richmond wiped its debt of this year?


They're not Director's expenses. They are transactions that the club has put through a business or entity that the Director is associated with. For instance, in Fahour's case it would be any money the club spent with Australia Post. In Kernahan's case, it would be any money the club spent with Kernahan's printing company.


Ok. Thanks

I understand Carlton may receive its printing material from Stick's business.

What would Carlton be wishing to spend money on Australia Post? $254,061 is a lot of Carlton letters considering we have an Internet policy at Carlton. :razz:

What would Carlton be wishing to spend money on Visy?


Oz Post: membership packages would take up a fair chunk of that I'd imagine.

Visy: recycling, waste, packaging for memberships, displays, signage, logistics… I'm just guessing here.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:24 am 
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JohnM wrote:

Oz Post: membership packages would take up a fair chunk of that I'd imagine.
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Yep, not to mention sending 4 packs to the wrong address 3 times.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:37 am 
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cecil89 wrote:
Can anyone enlighten me as to what an ASF Grant is?

*listed under Other Income - ASF Grants. 2012: $321,220 up to $767,695 in 2013.


Essentially, it's people like Geoffrey Edelsten who make donations to the club. His 'tax-deductible' donation to the club goes through the Australian Sports Foundation. The ASF receive to what amounts as a commission off the top. So long as there is a registered project started by Carlton - whether that be a plunge pool or team travel to Arizona, donations to that 'cause' are welcomed.


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