williams is a whiney lil boy...he is made in the sheedy mold screw him...be proud of the attitude and the fire in the blueboys bellys

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Fev has all the great intentions in the world, Whits does the same thing....its WRONG to critisice them for it (and thats not what you've done) but FEV is the money man, anytime he has the ball inside 60 he must take the kick...he hits it he's a hero, he misses he's a hero for being unselfish, he's ahero regardless...FEV is a GUN, no doubt about it.

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True, and also our kicking into the forward line, actually around the ground needs to be better, to many turnovers costs us goals...

Gotta make tackles stick, too many times they are as good as a wet paper bag....

Still, happy with the effort after 1/4 time... Good to see some run back into the team with Walker and Chambers.

2 points is better than nothing..

Were in the eight

Nick Stevens now BOG is that serious, i thought he played a average game

I'm hoping so too TrueBlue

We are in the 8 now !!!!!

And we will stay there if Freo and Saints lose tomorrow. We didnt lose, Port, Essendon*, Collingwood didnt win and Essendon* on the bottom. Does it get any better that that in a round.

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now now nat, don't hold us in suspense, do you want the boys to make you proud, or one of us to make you proud?

Hopefully you get both....if I were you I'd chase DAVID TEAGUE....after Hicky THE MOST COURAGEOUS PLAYER EVER!!!!

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TBB, agree with you on Fev. I guess we just need the concentration to make the right decision/execution at the right time.

As great as the progress Denis is making with our team, our two biggest weaknesses IMO, are our scoring efficiency and our mental strength.

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camelboy, how do we teach him to do the right thing at the right time though? Its instinct, I know that, the fact he cares about being a team player is great, but if he's within 60 he needs to kick at goal.

On a personal note I told my brother 5 yrs ago that if Fev ever sorts his ticking out he'll be a great and he's done that now...I heard he kicked 4.4...how many were posters? He is a great kick, great player and belivieve he'll be loyal to the BLUES at rhe end of this season

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http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&s ... eid=196662

BEST –Carlton: Houlihan, Fevola, Johnson, Carrazzo, Wiggins, Waite

You sit him down with Pagan, go through the tape and discuss alternative decisions that could have been made at that time. Discuss the pros and cons of each option and then Denis can say which one he reckons is the best way to go, Fev can say his and generally just discuss the situation.

Because the decision cost us a goal it's easy to say that Fev made the wrong decision. But as we've acknowledged he acted in the best interests of the team. But there was at least one other alternative available that could have also been in the team's best interests. I'd just like it if that moment was scrutinised by the coaching staff a bit more. I'm not suggesting anyone cops a bollocking, rather a sensible and encouraging discussion on decision making under pressure.

That and some more bloody kicking drills. We clearly have a need to deliver the ball with more quality inside 50.

There were two parts to that play. Mental and skill. Both need improve, and that's a team wide criticism, I'm not trying to single a player out.

I'm really happy that so many of us are seeing the great positives that have come out of this game, but to be honest, I'm very flat. If we were able to get that extra goal in front I think we would have been able to win the game. That extra goal not being scored resulted from us and only us. Let's use that experience as a positive so thatr when in similar positions again we get an outcome that is better for the club.

Hey, if Fev had of hit Waite on the chest I reckon we'd be celebrating a win and praising him for his unselfish play. This is why I'm not bagging Fev, but just stressing our need to have the mental strength to make the right decision at the right time, and once that decision has been made that it is executed with the required skill to make sure it comes off.

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Stevens BOG taken from AFL live game window thingy - RANKING POINTS Stevens 144, Kingsley 143 etc.

Anyway ...

Pagan's first ever draw apparently

He's too young for me hun

The one thing I would say to that is that I reckon a lot of our players act by instinct. Thats hard to counter, Fev has been told to be a team player and he tries too hard to live up to that. He needs to back himself, its a hard line to follow and Fev is doing an AWESOME job living upto expectations. Maybe some time with either Carey or Sticks to make him believe in himself could help. Belief is maybe the only thing he's missing now

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Yep, there's nothing wrong with what Fev did, and that's why I reckon some encouraging disucssion on what could have happened had he had the shot on goal is what's needed. After all it was at a similar time in the game and the same end in which he scored THAT goal against the Crows last year, so the vibes would have to have been good if he went back for a set shot.

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Exactly right. He just needs to sit down with Denis, Sticks, Carey and take something from everyone. They won't teach him how to get the ball, just advise him what to do when he does get it.

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If both those moves had paid off we'd be hailing him as a matchwinner and a visionary.

The ideas were not disastrous, the execution not quite there.

But I agree he is our full forward and our go-to guy. If it's gettable he should ALWAYS go for goal. I don't recall Lockett or Dunstall ever giving away too many to teammates.

Still, a major step in the right direction for Fevvy - hopefully the posts will be thinner at Subi.

Maybe it's based on SMS votes like they have at the games.

Holy Toledo Batman....

We had people over last night and at one point I excused myself to go lie on my doona for a moment and contemplate my navel (slightly too much champagne)

was interupted in this pursuit by mrmelbelle holding the phone announcing my mother wanted to speak to me

And I thought I dreamed it... oh well 2 points is better than nothing

this looks to have been a good week to forget to put tips in.....

will watch the replay this afternoon and have something slightly more relevant to say.

So how may qaurters have we played this year now? I assume we've progressed from one?

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