Bootsma Sakced!

RickJ · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:57 pm

Hey Wayne you cauliflower
Stop flower laughing
The penny has finally dropped
We are on to you
You too Cazzesman

Mil Hanna · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:01 pm

club29 wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

McKay says issues been going on for over a year. Yet last Septmeber we signed him up for two years.

Someone please explain the thinking behind this??

I will have a crack. Mick likes a bit of depth in the reserves and thought having a bloke who has played a few games at AFL level that we could call upon if required would be better than a kid at pick 100 who wouldn't stand a chance.

Or Mick thought he could turn him around. Reckon he has a bit of an ego when it comes to this.

Or mick just got it plain wrong.

So no matter what the circumstances, it was all Mick's fault eh? I suppose Mick should never have drafted him in the first place? :idea:

Good to see your balanced viewpoint on display yet again club! :thumbsup:

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:04 pm

weve been counselling this guy for a while
can i ask the question?
why dont we have a psychologist full time at the club working on mental profiles BEFORE these guys are in the front door.
Look at all the headcases we have amassed....
you can easily re do the movie 'One flew over the cookoos nest' at Visy Park
Timid
Lacking confidence
wankers
brainless
etc

Mil Hanna · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:13 pm

Synbad wrote:

weve been counselling this guy for a while
can i ask the question?
why dont we have a psychologist full time at the club working on mental profiles BEFORE these guys are in the front door.
Look at all the headcases we have amassed....
you can easily re do the movie 'One flew over the cookoos nest' at Visy Park
Timid
Lacking confidence
wankers
brainless
etc

I see what you did there....

Literally.

Mark J · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:16 pm

camelboy wrote:

mots wrote:

Apparantly he has been slagging off the club and coach through social media. flower prick, that's our job. Definitely not a team player.

Well that explains everything!

Bootsma is Synbad!!!! :lol:

TwinOne · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:23 pm

This kid is going wake up in ten years time and realize the opportunity he missed... best of luck Boots.

Dodo27 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:51 pm

We are Craft Masters at wasting and burning first round picks. The recruitment at Carlton has gone to a new level-beyond a Joke!!!

Bootsma was gone anyways end of year and the way things are going, he will soon be joined by another First rounder-Kane Lucas.

How could the Club do this to its members? The Club should be banned from Recruiting players outside of VIC!!! Sam Kerriage and Brad Hill are two players who could have been playing for us

MIL · **Joined:** Sat Jul 01, 2006 9:43 pm **Posts:** 4745

Dodo27 wrote:

We are Craft Masters at wasting and burning first round picks. The recruitment at Carlton has gone to a new level-beyond a Joke!!!

Bootsma was gone anyways end of year and the way things are going, he will soon be joined by another First rounder-Kane Lucas.

How could the Club do this to its members? The Club should be banned from Recruiting players outside of VIC!!! Sam Kerriage and Brad Hill are two players who could have been playing for us

The list of who could have been with us endless, but Selwood tops the list :yikes:

Destroyed by Hughes for a generation.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:01 pm

Yazzamatazz wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

bluehammer wrote:

Has anyone seen the PM?

Yes I am sure everyone has.

I haven't! !

Yeah, he's that dick running the country.

club29 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:10 pm

Mil Hanna wrote:

club29 wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

McKay says issues been going on for over a year. Yet last Septmeber we signed him up for two years.

Someone please explain the thinking behind this??

I will have a crack. Mick likes a bit of depth in the reserves and thought having a bloke who has played a few games at AFL level that we could call upon if required would be better than a kid at pick 100 who wouldn't stand a chance.

Or Mick thought he could turn him around. Reckon he has a bit of an ego when it comes to this.

Or mick just got it plain wrong.

So no matter what the circumstances, it was all Mick's fault eh? I suppose Mick should never have drafted him in the first place? :idea:

Good to see your balanced viewpoint on display yet again club! :thumbsup:

Gday Mil,

I didnt say any of those reasons were wrong. I was actually defending him with the first. The second even. Third not so much but it would be no big deal if he was wrong. Wouldnt be the first time.

He was head coach when he was signed for two years. I doubt Mick could be talked into keeping a bloke he didn't want by his "yes men".
I'd say option one would be close to the mark.

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:19 pm

Josh Bootsma is automatically elevated to Legend Status as one our greatest ever first round draft picks.

:roll:

Although Murray Vance and Stephen Edgar are making bold claims.

Mil Hanna · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:33 pm

club29 wrote:

Mil Hanna wrote:

club29 wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

McKay says issues been going on for over a year. Yet last Septmeber we signed him up for two years.

Someone please explain the thinking behind this??

I will have a crack. Mick likes a bit of depth in the reserves and thought having a bloke who has played a few games at AFL level that we could call upon if required would be better than a kid at pick 100 who wouldn't stand a chance.

Or Mick thought he could turn him around. Reckon he has a bit of an ego when it comes to this.

Or mick just got it plain wrong.

So no matter what the circumstances, it was all Mick's fault eh? I suppose Mick should never have drafted him in the first place? :idea:

Good to see your balanced viewpoint on display yet again club! :thumbsup:

Gday Mil,

I didnt say any of those reasons were wrong. I was actually defending him with the first. The second even. Third not so much but it would be no big deal if he was wrong. Wouldnt be the first time.

He was head coach when he was signed for two years. I doubt Mick could be talked into keeping a bloke he didn't want by his "yes men".
I'd say option one would be close to the mark.

Yeah fair enough. It does sound like you firmly believe it was all up to Mick though.

I reckon there would have been a fair few others putting their 20c worth into the sign him/delist him debate though. Given that he was a high pick and had shown a small glimpse of what he was capable of at Senior level I reckon Mick probably got talked around on the decision.

Obviously he was already on the chopping block with the lack of opportunities last season and the attempted trade, but I guess like a lot of decisions that have been made at this club over the past 15 years - they probably closed their eyes and crossed their fingers and hoped for a miracle to happen.

limestone · **Joined:** Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:37 am **Posts:** 770

Mil Hanna wrote:

Trigger wrote:

Blue Vain wrote:

Typical.
The only bloke on our list willing to go out and show a bit of mongrel and we give him the arse.

Showed mongrel on social media. How tuff is that.Pathetic comment from no brainers, and some of us cheerlead these incompetent fools.

Obviously there's no point in asking if you got the PM Trigger? :lol:

:Whoosh:

Ok, that's it, can I PLEASE have the PM

Molly · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:36 pm

AGRO wrote:

Josh Bootsma is automatically elevated to Legend Status as one our greatest ever first round draft picks.

:roll:

Although Murray Vance and Stephen Edgar are making bold claims.

Don't forget Watson - a player with absolutely no attributes for the modern game besides a booming kick. But you're probably waiting for him to be cut from the list before elevating him to legend status Agro?

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:40 pm

Molly wrote:

AGRO wrote:

Josh Bootsma is automatically elevated to Legend Status as one our greatest ever first round draft picks.

:roll:

Although Murray Vance and Stephen Edgar are making bold claims.

Don't forget Watson - a player with absolutely no attributes for the modern game besides a booming kick. But you're probably waiting for him to be cut from the list before elevating him to legend status Agro?

You do after all have to be out of the game for a respectful period of time. :cool:

club29 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:41 pm

Mil Hanna wrote:

club29 wrote:

Mil Hanna wrote:

club29 wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

McKay says issues been going on for over a year. Yet last Septmeber we signed him up for two years.

Someone please explain the thinking behind this??

I will have a crack. Mick likes a bit of depth in the reserves and thought having a bloke who has played a few games at AFL level that we could call upon if required would be better than a kid at pick 100 who wouldn't stand a chance.

Or Mick thought he could turn him around. Reckon he has a bit of an ego when it comes to this.

Or mick just got it plain wrong.

So no matter what the circumstances, it was all Mick's fault eh? I suppose Mick should never have drafted him in the first place? :idea:

Good to see your balanced viewpoint on display yet again club! :thumbsup:

Gday Mil,

I didnt say any of those reasons were wrong. I was actually defending him with the first. The second even. Third not so much but it would be no big deal if he was wrong. Wouldnt be the first time.

He was head coach when he was signed for two years. I doubt Mick could be talked into keeping a bloke he didn't want by his "yes men".
I'd say option one would be close to the mark.

Yeah fair enough. It does sound like you firmly believe it was all up to Mick though.

I reckon there would have been a fair few others putting their 20c worth into the sign him/delist him debate though. Given that he was a high pick and had shown a small glimpse of what he was capable of at Senior level I reckon Mick probably got talked around on the decision.

Obviously he was already on the chopping block with the lack of opportunities last season and the attempted trade, but I guess like a lot of decisions that have been made at this club over the past 15 years - they probably closed their eyes and crossed their fingers and hoped for a miracle to happen.

... and got a bit more depth to the list than adding pick 100. So probably option one.
My post was to have a crack at answering the psychologists question. Why was he signed to 2 years when he had already shown signs of having off field issues?

People often put blame for the list on Ratts because he was coach when certain players were drafted. Surely the same applies to Mick when he is head coach when players with issues are signed up for two years? You would have to agree that that is fair enough.
We all know Mick would not be talked into it.

Punter22 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:45 pm

Blue Beatle wrote:

ThePsychologist wrote:

McKay says issues been going on for over a year. Yet last Septmeber we signed him up for two years.

Someone please explain the thinking behind this??

well just shows how incompetent the whole administration still is - but given our history of recruitment, trading and player management over the last ten years we shouldn't be surprised.

I would also like to know who made that decision - like were they worried someone would snap him up?

McKay was asked that question on SEN tonight (on why he got an extension when the problems had been of concern for 12 months).

He said that while they were aware of the issues, Bootsma was receiving assistance and appeared as if he wanted to address the situation and improve himself. So they ended up backing him with the contract.

Just bear in mind that McKay has thrown his hat into the ring for the CEO position... :yikes:

Megaman · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:53 pm

Agree we should only draft Victorian players like Bradley Hill

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:55 pm

Megaman wrote:

Agree we should only draft Victorian players like Bradley Hill

I'd be happy if we drafted players.

dane · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:14 am **Posts:** 22357

I'm a retrospective draft expert.

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