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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:41 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


No words...


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


No words...


The guys on Fox were saying they would possibly get three first round picks for him.
Lynch was good, but not that good.
Eddie McGuire & his merry band of sycophants Paul Roos, Dunstall etc were all on a panel Friday night discussing this issue. It’s all good they concluded.AFL will step in with significant compensation. Up to 3 first round picks!! That will push them up the ladder artificially without giving them “priority picks” in the tradition way.


The only ones with a dissenting voice were Gerard and David King. Both referred to the Gold Coast as a recruiting club for other clubs, which is basically what Carlton is as well. A or B+grade talent forced out the door-eg Gibbs, Tuohy. Only difference is GC compensation. Wait and see. Watch and learn. November.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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Buddy got Hawthorn pick 16 and Lynch will get GC multiple first rounders? He must be going for $2m a Eason for 8-10 years.......surely


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 Post subject: List Management 2018
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DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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The Normal One wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


Well, if the AFL have assured them multiple picks as compo it’d make sense for Eddie to be talking it up.

Sounds like Lynch has made a decision


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:18 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


Well, if the AFL have assured them multiple picks as compo it’d make sense for Eddie to be talking it up.

Sounds like Lynch has made a decision

Is that how it works though?
I thought compo was a band 1, 2, 3 etc with ONE pick either after your first pick, at the end of the first round, after a second round pick and so on.
How can they give a club multiple picks?
This is bullshit if true.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:31 pm 
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kezza wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


Well, if the AFL have assured them multiple picks as compo it’d make sense for Eddie to be talking it up.

Sounds like Lynch has made a decision

Is that how it works though?
I thought compo was a band 1, 2, 3 etc with ONE pick either after your first pick, at the end of the first round, after a second round pick and so on.
How can they give a club multiple picks?
This is bullshit if true.


Mate, it’s the AFL, they’ll do whatever suits them


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:26 pm 
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kezza wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


Well, if the AFL have assured them multiple picks as compo it’d make sense for Eddie to be talking it up.

Sounds like Lynch has made a decision

Is that how it works though?
I thought compo was a band 1, 2, 3 etc with ONE pick either after your first pick, at the end of the first round, after a second round pick and so on.
How can they give a club multiple picks?
This is bullshit if true.


I think Gold Coast will get pick 4 for coming 4th last. That is a given. The AFL will somehow engineer two extra 1st round draft picks for them, as apparently he is better than Franklin !!

To make it appear more “fair” they might give them one of the compensation picks next year?

Eg pick 3&4 this year, pick 10 next year. It won’t be at the end of 1st round unless things change. Call it the Frawley Rule.

Eddie looked gleeful on tv the other night. Lynch is likely Collingwood bound, but they have a few players on big bucks including ex Freo player, Pendlebury and deGoey, so I am sure it will all work out once they offload fringe players.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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tap in 79 wrote:
kezza wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Gold Coast will get band 1 compo for Lynch and a PP. the question will be whether the PP comes at the start of the first round.


GC will match any bid and force a trade. Stupid not too.


Well, if the AFL have assured them multiple picks as compo it’d make sense for Eddie to be talking it up.

Sounds like Lynch has made a decision

Is that how it works though?
I thought compo was a band 1, 2, 3 etc with ONE pick either after your first pick, at the end of the first round, after a second round pick and so on.
How can they give a club multiple picks?
This is bullshit if true.


And so Eddie praises Carlton’s stance on rebuilding and pumps the need for GC assistance. Conniving cauliflower
I think Gold Coast will get pick 4 for coming 4th last. That is a given. The AFL will somehow engineer two extra 1st round draft picks for them, as apparently he is better than Franklin !!

To make it appear more “fair” they might give them one of the compensation picks next year?

Eg pick 3&4 this year, pick 10 next year. It won’t be at the end of 1st round unless things change. Call it the Frawley Rule.

Eddie looked gleeful on tv the other night. Lynch is likely Collingwood bound, but they have a few players on big bucks including ex Freo player, Pendlebury and deGoey, so I am sure it will all work out once they offload fringe players.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:13 pm 
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If they want Lynch to stay the AFL should offer poor compo do that the Suns match and a trade is forced.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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so if gold coast finish last do they get p1 and 2 and the team that finishes second last gets pick 3 is this correct


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:49 pm 
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jamespul65 wrote:
so if gold coast finish last do they get p1 and 2 and the team that finishes second last gets pick 3 is this correct

Yes. It will be a pick directly after their first pick. So the team finishing above them gets pushed down the order.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:16 pm 
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Pick 2/3/4 in this draft is far better compensation than they’ll get from forcing a trade, especially if it comes with a PP.

No wonder Eddie’s smiling


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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DesEnglish wrote:
Pick 2/3/4 in this draft is far better compensation than they’ll get from forcing a trade, especially if it comes with a PP.

No wonder Eddie’s smiling


Exactly. He knows they will not match and loving every moment. What makes it worse, is that he is running the AFL move.........corruption at its best!!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:32 pm 
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So clubs like Hawthorn and Collingwood can just pick up quality players for nothing yet the thought of Carlton receiving any AFL assistance is seen to be outrages by some.
We cannot get good free agents to come to us so if an extra draft pick is the only help we can get then go for it.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:37 pm 
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tap in 79 wrote:
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just reading about the mess over at north. 30 million in a "war chest" to spend. offering massive overs on all kinds of elite players, and being turned down methodically, one-by-one by all of them. De goey taking a $3.6million pay cut to stay with the pies? is that good or bad? loyalty from de goey is good, but it's bad for league wide parity, yeah?

imo, that there is a current problem with the AFL. teams trying to get into the elite end of the comp, are routinely shutout from that happening.

all this doesn't bode terribly well for us and our aspirations of landing an elite mid or really, two... in their minds coming over here in the prime of their career to be bashed from pillar to post (see Judd, Chris) and probably not even play finals footy is a massive ask.


Exactly, clubs that are tier 3 will never land an A grade midfielder through trading. Carlton was effectively the last club to do it with Judd on the back of Pratt power, Carlton’s reputation etc.

Since then, the competition has changed- 18 teams, an AFL designer free agency, trading for draft picks, no priority picks etc. Their policies have contributed to this mess etc.

Judd was effectively the last A grade player to go from a tier 1 club to a tier 3 club. There is more chance of me going to the moon than Carlton recruiting Rory Sloane, Shiel, etc


Dane Beams going from Collingwood to Brisbane is one. What do you want the AFL to do about free agency??


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:39 pm 
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scottopee wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
just reading about the mess over at north. 30 million in a "war chest" to spend. offering massive overs on all kinds of elite players, and being turned down methodically, one-by-one by all of them. De goey taking a $3.6million pay cut to stay with the pies? is that good or bad? loyalty from de goey is good, but it's bad for league wide parity, yeah?

imo, that there is a current problem with the AFL. teams trying to get into the elite end of the comp, are routinely shutout from that happening.

all this doesn't bode terribly well for us and our aspirations of landing an elite mid or really, two... in their minds coming over here in the prime of their career to be bashed from pillar to post (see Judd, Chris) and probably not even play finals footy is a massive ask.


Exactly, clubs that are tier 3 will never land an A grade midfielder through trading. Carlton was effectively the last club to do it with Judd on the back of Pratt power, Carlton’s reputation etc.

Since then, the competition has changed- 18 teams, an AFL designer free agency, trading for draft picks, no priority picks etc. Their policies have contributed to this mess etc.

Judd was effectively the last A grade player to go from a tier 1 club to a tier 3 club. There is more chance of me going to the moon than Carlton recruiting Rory Sloane, Shiel, etc


Dane Beams going from Collingwood to Brisbane is one. What do you want the AFL to do about free agency??


Moonbeams. :smile:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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I reckon I'd put pick 1 up for grabs, provided we can get a pick around 5 and another around 10-15 back the other way.
I can't really make up my mind between Lukosius, Walsh, Rankine, B King, M King anyway. Any would be a great get and who knows which one will turn out best.
In a deep draft another first rounder would be worth giving up the choice IMO

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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I'd take Lukosius at pick 1 no hesitation.
Best talent in the draft, can't remember another CHF with his footy IQ , Kicking skills and work ethic in over a decade.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2018
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I'd take Lukosius at pick 1 no hesitation.
Best talent in the draft, can't remember another CHF with his footy IQ , Kicking skills and work ethic in over a decade.

We could have Tony Lockett but if we can't get the ball into the F50 it's a moot point.

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