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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:42 am 
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Blokes on here at the time reckoned it would teach Fisher a lesson and he'd keep out of Fevola's way from then on.
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And that is the point.. Fisher shouldn't have had to keep out of d*ckhead's way. D*ckhead should have been able to assess the game from his vantage point behind Fisher (and Whitnall and Carlos) and stay the flower out of the way. But as I have said many times, everything was all about HIM and when Pagan decided to make him the number one man, it gave Fevola free licence to own the place, and treat everyone around him like shit. God help them if they got in his way. So !@#$%& glad that cnt is gone.


Easy to say now he's gone. Funny that people had the exact opposite response at the time.

But then again, it's not surprising, is it?


That might have been your opinion verbs, but ever since 2005 I've wanted this @#$%&! bag gone. Of course, I was always happy when he kicked goals playing for the Blues, but my comments were always that he should go asap. I was referred to as a 'Fev Hater' along with others like Sydney Blue.

He also did Chris Massie in 2001 by breaking his leg. Indie is spot on in his earlier post - the Setanta collision was a disgrace, and interesting to see after the game against Brisbane a few weeks back - Setanta didn't even look him in the eye after the game, and barely shook his hand. Obviously plenty of bad blood there.

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:01 am 
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Have and always will be a Fev hater - he is an idiot

I have said all along he is Warwick Capper mark II or a poor form of Richo


People had gotten that used to Carlton being shit they accepted blokes like him

I cannot believe some of the decisions this club has made over the last 8 or so years -

they look like they finally have their shit together but there still are some things that need to be ironed out and when we eventually go deep into the finals the true worth of some of the players will be shown and we will see who can cut the mustard

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:07 am 
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He also did Chris Massie in 2001 by breaking his leg.


My memory of that is a rubbish pass from Scott Freeborn over the top of Massie's head and he landed awkwardly, busting his leg in the process. Happy to be corrected though. Any other versions?


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:11 am 
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I'm happy the guy is gone but let's not kick him and enjoy it so much.

He has problems and is struggling at the moment. I wish him well because he played for my club and deserves my respect as a past member of the CFC.


DUC you hit the nail on the head.

I was very happy to see FEV go .. not cause I did not love him but because in the end his personality did not go hand in hand with no. 17.

Currently I feel sorry for the big lug and wish him all the best to try and sort out his personal demons ... it just seems at the moment everyone is gloating and remembering the bad FEV without thinking about the magic he produced in the navy blue.

As for the forward line at the moment WOW I had a feeling we would be better without FEV but not this bloody quick!

But please everyone cut the lug some slack ... he probably still comes here and has a read and some of the less thoughtful comments would cut pretty deep at the moment the way he must be feeling.

FEV just get yourself sorted out ... stop your old ways (they are the reason you are where you are) ... and realise you still have time (just) to make some positive moves in your life if you choose to. Everyone has to grow up sometime.

In the end noone on here really wants to see you a penniless washed up hack ... we are better off without you but from the bottom of my heart thx for the memories.


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:59 am 
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Those of us who wanted to trade Fevola seemed to be outnumbered or out–verballed last year.

"The big lug" could do himself a favour by not celebrating every goal with body language that says "How good am I ?"

That put me off him from Day 1. "How good are we ?" is fine by me.

Time to put the team first and he will be more appreciated.

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:20 pm 
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OK.....strange after the Voss chastisement.....but Fevola and Brown both flew to Adelaide on the weekend to see a groin specialist; after which they'll have treatment for a week,

as they play in Adelaide this week; and there is hope they'll both be able to play......apparently.

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:38 pm 
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I just think it's great that every week, someone outside the forward group pops up and kicks 2-3 goals ..... sweet

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:54 pm 
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Fev is A narcististic douchebag who was a cancer at the club. It was always going to be just about him. We have looked more impressive in our last 3 wins than anytime since 2001. We may still be 5-3 if he was still there, but this side is far better equiped to eventually go all the way.



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:24 am 
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AK43 wrote:
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He also did Chris Massie in 2001 by breaking his leg.


My memory of that is a rubbish pass from Scott Freeborn over the top of Massie's head and he landed awkwardly, busting his leg in the process. Happy to be corrected though. Any other versions?


You could be right AK, but my memory was Fev crashing into Massie from behind. They both went to ground and Fev missed from R12 to R20 himself - Massie didn't play for us again.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:52 am 
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Um why we still talking about Fev?

I love Fev and even though he was a stroodle off the field, my best memories the last 6 years pretty much include him kicking freaky goals, doing amazing things and given the Carlton fans a lot of enjoyment on field. Will never forget the game he nearly kicked 100 goals.

Yes there were dark times where he didnt chase in the pagan days. But l did see a player start to change and mature the last couple years.

Without fev we probably would of won 5 wooden spoons. You don't have to like him, but you can't devalue one of Carltons best Forwards ever. Yea he was a dick off field, but you can't disrespect the onfield things he did for the blues.

Alot of criticism goes towards Fevola because team mates kept kicking the ball to him. Thats because he is one of the best forwards in the league and the coaches/players didn't have a proper gameplan. Fevola can't kick the ball to himself. He can lead but players choose to kick it to him or not.

I think it is a bit premature to say we are better without Fevola. I would of much liked to see Fevola in the goal square with the 3 amigos doing their thing. If the game plan was the same as it is now with Fev in the team, we would have the best forward line ever. Our forwardline has only looked great the last couple weeks due to Waitey being able to take a big mark down there. So l dont see how you can say we are better without one of the best forwards in the league.

As for a fevolaless forwardline at the moment, it is working so far. But will teams work it out during the year and Carlton find itself struggling to kick goals? who knows. Time will tell. Hopefully it continues.

I am glad Fev moved on, it was best for the club and best for him. I just hate the bagging of the player that gave the club so many good memories onfield the last 6 or so years. Yes some bad offield and some sooking on the field, but alot good. Most fans went to the games because fevola was playing, because with him onfire we could beat most teams in our darkest days and would always pull out something special.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:30 am 
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The Duke wrote:
He also did Chris Massie in 2001 by breaking his leg.


I'm not one to stick up for Fev too much, but this is not true. It was Scott Freeborn who kicked a hospital pass for Massie to be crunched and break his leg. Fev had nothing to do with it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:33 am 
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The Duke wrote:
AK43 wrote:
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He also did Chris Massie in 2001 by breaking his leg.


My memory of that is a rubbish pass from Scott Freeborn over the top of Massie's head and he landed awkwardly, busting his leg in the process. Happy to be corrected though. Any other versions?


You could be right AK, but my memory was Fev crashing into Massie from behind. They both went to ground and Fev missed from R12 to R20 himself - Massie didn't play for us again.


Fev did injure himself in that game, but in a separate incident to the Massie one.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:36 am 
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The Spornstar wrote:


My memory of that is a rubbish pass from Scott Freeborn over the top of Massie's head and he landed awkwardly, busting his leg in the process. Happy to be corrected though. Any other versions?[/quote]

You could be right AK, but my memory was Fev crashing into Massie from behind. They both went to ground and Fev missed from R12 to R20 himself - Massie didn't play for us again.[/quote]

Fev did injure himself in that game, but in a separate incident to the Massie one.[/quote]

Who gives a S!@$t, lets bring out all the dirty laundry from 9 years ago.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:37 am 
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As for a fevolaless forwardline at the moment, it is working so far. But will teams work it out during the year and Carlton find itself struggling to kick goals? who knows. Time will tell. Hopefully it continues.


Is there really a lot to work out?
Before it was pretty basic, about two thirds of forward 50 entires would go to Fev. Now 100% of forward 50 entries can go anywhere.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:03 pm 
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Goltzenberg wrote:

Who gives a S!@$t, lets bring out all the dirty laundry from 9 years ago.


I agree, but I was just correcting a misnomer that seems to be brought up from time to time on this site (ie that Fev caused the Massie injury). Fev doesn't deserve criticism for something he didn't do in 2001.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:08 pm 
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The Spornstar wrote:
Goltzenberg wrote:

Who gives a S!@$t, lets bring out all the dirty laundry from 9 years ago.


I agree, but I was just correcting a misnomer that seems to be brought up from time to time on this site (ie that Fev caused the Massie injury). Fev doesn't deserve criticism for something he didn't do in 2001.


Not having a go at you, but whoever is bringing up that crap WTF


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:16 pm 
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woof wrote:
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As for a fevolaless forwardline at the moment, it is working so far. But will teams work it out during the year and Carlton find itself struggling to kick goals? who knows. Time will tell. Hopefully it continues.


Is there really a lot to work out?
Before it was pretty basic, about two thirds of forward 50 entires would go to Fev. Now 100% of forward 50 entries can go anywhere.


My point was that it was never Fevola's fault the ball was kicked to him 2/3 of the time. It was the coaches/players that made that mistake/decision. Whether he had ago at team mates for not kicking to him, the players make that decision. If coach says kick it to the best available option and they kick it to Fev with 3 players on him, that player should of been taught a lesson/dragged. That never happened.

If we had Fevola in the forwardline right now with 100% of forward entries going to the best available option, then l would say our forward line would be a even better then it is now. Even though right now the forwardline looks great.

I can safely say l would prefer Fevola in the goal square having the ball kicked to him 5 times a game then Setanta 5 times a game. So to say Carlton are better off without Fevola in the forward line is a bit silly.

The only thing that has changed is the coaching staff have realised they need to use all options available now and if they did that last few years, we would of had more success.

But, lets not live in the past, Fevs not there so why this thread open.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:56 pm 
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What Goltz said, pretty much summed it up...

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:58 pm 
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The Spornstar wrote:
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Who gives a S!@$t, lets bring out all the dirty laundry from 9 years ago.


I agree, but I was just correcting a misnomer that seems to be brought up from time to time on this site (ie that Fev caused the Massie injury). Fev doesn't deserve criticism for something he didn't do in 2001.


Yes he does :twisted: .

Okay, so I'm happy to stand corrected if this was the case. But I just have this image in my head of Fev crashing into Massie and both of them lying on the ground. It may have been a shocker of a pass from Freeborn, but that's irrelevant.

Still, we should move on before Goltz gets really angry.

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:09 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
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Who gives a S!@$t, lets bring out all the dirty laundry from 9 years ago.


I agree, but I was just correcting a misnomer that seems to be brought up from time to time on this site (ie that Fev caused the Massie injury). Fev doesn't deserve criticism for something he didn't do in 2001.


Yes he does :twisted: .

Okay, so I'm happy to stand corrected if this was the case. But I just have this image in my head of Fev crashing into Massie and both of them lying on the ground. It may have been a shocker of a pass from Freeborn, but that's irrelevant.

Still, we should move on before Goltz gets really angry.


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