Blue Vain wrote:
You need players who can win their own ball. When the team is on top we have a number of players who contribute but when the heat is on, they are liabilities.
Out of our 127 contested possessions, Everett and Gorringe had 1 contested possession between them. Everett 1 and Gorringe 0. In our last loss Everett had 1 contested possession.
You find out more about your players in losses than you do with wins.
Unfortunately we're not good enough to carry blokes who only want to add the cream. Lots of lessons out of todays game.
Byrne had just 2, shall we call him a liability?
Some stats contextualise others, while some stats need greater context. Here's Champion Data's official definition of a contested possession:
http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/07/09/mi ... important/Quote:
Contested possessions are made up of:
* Hard Ball Get (win disputed ball while physically beating an opponent at ground level)
* Loose Ball Get (win other disputed ball at ground level – ie. right place, right time)
* Contested Knock-on (knocking the ball out of a pack to a teammate’s advantage – Hawthorn do this a lot)
* Gather from Hitout to Advantage (similar to looseball get, but the ball was fed from the ruckman’s tap)
* Free Kicks (excluding those paid off the ball or downfield)
* Contested Marks (all marks where an opponent had a chance to mark or spoil – not including marks on lead)
So unless a tall forward is taking contested marks, getting free kicks, or winning the ball off the deck, they're generally not getting contested possessions.
Gorringe was racking up a few the last few weeks because he was feeding the footy out from stoppages and packs, as well as running like a maniac. I maintain that between his knee injury and the effort levels in his last two games that perhaps shouldn't have played today, if there was a solid replacement option.
As for Everitt, you're right in that he's arguably one of the worst in this stats category that's still regularly scoring goals, but there are two others in the league who stand even further out amongst all forwards (not just tall forwards): Jeff Garlett and Jed Lamb.
Everitt averages 4.1 for the season; Gorringe 4.5. I'd say that's acceptable for blokes who aren't going to take a whole lot of pack marks in their careers, but it's definitely something to improve upon. If they averaged two more a game, they'd have similar averages to most elite forwards.