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Geelongs nine year journey by Jake Niall.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/af ... 30575.html

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Geelong would miscalculate 12 months later and try to top up with West Coast's Mitchell White and Carlton midfielder Justin Murphy in a short-lived experiment with Band-aid recruiting.

There was a smell about Geelong that afternoon. It was flogged, and finished 12th in 2001. Burnt by the failed top-up, the club went back to the draft, and the other major influx came: Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, Gary Ablett — courtesy of the father-son rule — and James Kelly all came on board; they and the 1999ers are now the core of the grand final team.

Geelong's steadily improving financial position meant the club was always able to have its full complement of rookies, and, as Costa observed, it was able to field its own Geelong team in the VFL, rather than form an alliance with Werribee — a point of difference between it and the other Victorian clubs.

Sources from that period said the other significant decision the club made was to resist overtures from the AFL to have many, if not all, of its home games shifted from Geelong to Telstra Dome or the MCG.

As one insider posited, the Cats might have struggled to refuse — and to push ahead and develop their ground — had the weight of debt not been lifted.

Geelong ascended slowly under the Cook-Thompson plan. In 2003, Bomber had advised the board that Geelong would enter its premiership window in 2006 and 2007, but that the group was sufficiently talented enough that it "might pinch one before then".

This nearly occurred in 2004, when the Cats fell nine points shy of Brisbane in the preliminary final. The following year, they were within three seconds of another prelim, beaten by the astonishing goal to Sydney's Nick Davis.

When the Cats won the pre-season last year, the faithful believed the premiership was nigh. Instead, 2006 turned into the season of discontent, as the Cats whimpered to 10th, amid a dispute with sacked fitness coach Loris Bertolacci.

Cook and the board, with Andrews and Wade agitating for change, instituted an in-depth review of the football club. Thompson, who labelled the review "crap" this year, survived the process, but the upshot was that the fitness team was overhauled, and Neil Balme left Collingwood to become Bomber's foil as the new football operations manager.

Henceforth, Thompson would report to Balme, and, as Costa explained, the coach was more able to concentrate on "one-on-one coaching" — his strength — instead of administrative matters, contracts and so forth.

A new game emphasising quick ball movement from half-back through the corridor replaced the more conservative style Thompson had favoured.

Then, at Balme's behest, Geelong hired Gerard Murphy to implement a new leadership program.

Tom Harley, whose replacedment of Steven King as captain marked another watershed, became the driver of a more demanding and accountable leadership group.

The new leadership group presided over Steve Johnson's five-match suspension at the beginning of the season — from which he emerged as an All-Australian. Harley and co also told Cameron Mooney to pull his head in, and suggested to Gary Ablett that he had the capacity to play at the level of Chris Judd, which he duly did.

It began with a new leadership of the club in '99, and it ended with a new leadership of the team — and perhaps a flag — eight years later.


Notice any similarities?

The reality is it's not so much about who does the review. The requirement is the people involved need the courage and impartiality to make the hard calls when required.
David Parkin believes clubs will always struggle to succeed until they can honestly review their operations with active participation from all involved. No exceptions.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:08 am 
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Any CFC Board member who hasn't read this thread shouldn't be on the Board. It should be a standing agenda item.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:10 am 
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Will be pretty funny if we win the first few games of the year and set a new membership record.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:23 am 
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Let's hope the Easter Bunny and Santa look after you as well.

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Lets hope if they ever do a review they don't hire the same people who conducted The ECB review in 2010
As it has been pretty much all down hill from there culminating with a defeat by the Bangers last night.
Since conducting the review they have slipped from being at the No1 cricket nation to now lucky to be ranked in top 10

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:31 am 
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So we might slip and get knocked off the top perch you reckon?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:32 am 
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dane wrote:
Will be pretty funny if we win the first few games of the year and set a new membership record.

Yes.. It's called the funny plan....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:17 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Let's hope the Easter Bunny and Santa look after you as well.


Sorry I'm too busy riding my unicorn to be bothered responding to this.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:38 am 
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Is that a euphemism?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:38 am 
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stubba wrote:
Any CFC Board member who hasn't read this thread shouldn't be on the Board. It should be a standing agenda item.


I'd be unsurprised if at the club TC was seen as the place where whingers gravitate to and not representative of the supporter base at large. As such it could easily be ignored.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:40 am 
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Wojee wrote:
stubba wrote:
Any CFC Board member who hasn't read this thread shouldn't be on the Board. It should be a standing agenda item.


I'd be unsurprised if at the club TC was seen as the place where whingers gravitate to and not representative of the supporter base at large. As such it could easily be ignored.


They have Facebook to represent the views of the true supporters. :lol:

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Heavs wrote:
Is that a euphemism?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:03 am 
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AGRO wrote:
When Eddie took over Collingwood back in the late 90's he talked of a line by line reconstruction of the club from top to bottom said it would take time, he smiled through gritted teeth through their wooden spoons but never wavered off the message that it would take time, their membership bought the message and waited patiently but the club delivered.


Just the one actually. Eddie wasn't running the Club in 1976. :razz:

The reason why I stay loyal and always buy a membership is because I have always felt part of the Club. It has never crossed my mind, even through the late 90's when we were shit, to not buy one. As long as I can remember our culture has always been us against them. Watching us lose Grand Finals has only enforced those feelings.

Personally the Club has been amazing to me. Once I went to a family day and bought some footy jumpers that were accidently left in a cab. Notifying the Club, they sent me 2 fully signed jumpers as replacements. When my little brother was told he couldn't play with his Auskick team for Collingwood against Hawthorn because of his age he missed out on the AFL's insurance policy by a month, the Club allowed him into the rooms before the game and to run out with the team as a mascot that day.

These are small things and I'm just one member. I'm sure there are thousands of other similar stories.

No doubt Hawthorn and Geelong have great members numbers due to success. But I imagine Richmond supporters have a similar mentality to us. The ridicule they've copped for 9th is no different to our history of losing Grand Finals. In a way, failure has made us stronger and more united. It also makes the victories all the more satisfying.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:07 am 
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Wojee wrote:
stubba wrote:
Any CFC Board member who hasn't read this thread shouldn't be on the Board. It should be a standing agenda item.


I'd be unsurprised if at the club TC was seen as the place where whingers gravitate to and not representative of the supporter base at large. As such it could easily be ignored.


I suspect you're right. But people generally whinge only when there is something that bugs them. And there are some common themes in the comments posted here. I believe that the more informed you are the better your decisions will be.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:49 am 
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mandy wrote:
AGRO wrote:
When Eddie took over Collingwood back in the late 90's he talked of a line by line reconstruction of the club from top to bottom said it would take time, he smiled through gritted teeth through their wooden spoons but never wavered off the message that it would take time, their membership bought the message and waited patiently but the club delivered.


Just the one actually. Eddie wasn't running the Club in 1976. :razz:

The reason why I stay loyal and always buy a membership is because I have always felt part of the Club. It has never crossed my mind, even through the late 90's when we were shit, to not buy one. As long as I can remember our culture has always been us against them. Watching us lose Grand Finals has only enforced those feelings.

Personally the Club has been amazing to me. Once I went to a family day and bought some footy jumpers that were accidently left in a cab. Notifying the Club, they sent me 2 fully signed jumpers as replacements. When my little brother was told he couldn't play with his Auskick team for Collingwood against Hawthorn because of his age he missed out on the AFL's insurance policy by a month, the Club allowed him into the rooms before the game and to run out with the team as a mascot that day.

These are small things and I'm just one member. I'm sure there are thousands of other similar stories.

No doubt Hawthorn and Geelong have great members numbers due to success. But I imagine Richmond supporters have a similar mentality to us. The ridicule they've copped for 9th is no different to our history of losing Grand Finals. In a way, failure has made us stronger and more united. It also makes the victories all the more satisfying.


Hi Mandy - the reference to spoons plural wasn't a crack.

But I did want to emphasise a point that had Eddie not delivered on his promise and strayed off the message of a proper reconstruction of the club, how many Collingwood members would have stuck fat, if there were 15 years of bandaid fixes and wallpapering of cracks instead of genuine rebuilding of the club from top to bottom.


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AGRO wrote:
Hi Mandy - the reference to spoons plural wasn't a crack.

But I did want to emphasise a point that had Eddie not delivered on his promise and strayed off the message of a proper reconstruction of the club, how many Collingwood members would have stuck fat, if there were 15 years of bandaid fixes and wallpapering of cracks instead of genuine rebuilding of the club from top to bottom.


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Hi AGRO

Not sure. But we did survive Ranald MacDonalds "New Magpies" that almost destroyed us in the 80's. That was probably a worse situation than you guys find yourselves in now. There's always a way back.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:36 pm 
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there is a way back but it will take someone or somebodies to start it.

The Pratts, Germinders and the Mathiesons are the reason the club has tread water for so long

They need to be honest in facing the fact that they haven't succeeded therefore must go. That wont happen

So someone else has to do something about it

As long as Pratt, germander and Craig Mathieson are on the board nothing will actually change.
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mandy wrote:
AGRO wrote:
When Eddie took over Collingwood back in the late 90's he talked of a line by line reconstruction of the club from top to bottom said it would take time, he smiled through gritted teeth through their wooden spoons but never wavered off the message that it would take time, their membership bought the message and waited patiently but the club delivered.


Just the one actually. Eddie wasn't running the Club in 1976. :razz:

The reason why I stay loyal and always buy a membership is because I have always felt part of the Club. It has never crossed my mind, even through the late 90's when we were shit, to not buy one. As long as I can remember our culture has always been us against them. Watching us lose Grand Finals has only enforced those feelings.

Personally the Club has been amazing to me. Once I went to a family day and bought some footy jumpers that were accidently left in a cab. Notifying the Club, they sent me 2 fully signed jumpers as replacements. When my little brother was told he couldn't play with his Auskick team for Collingwood against Hawthorn because of his age he missed out on the AFL's insurance policy by a month, the Club allowed him into the rooms before the game and to run out with the team as a mascot that day.

These are small things and I'm just one member. I'm sure there are thousands of other similar stories.

No doubt Hawthorn and Geelong have great members numbers due to success. But I imagine Richmond supporters have a similar mentality to us. The ridicule they've copped for 9th is no different to our history of losing Grand Finals. In a way, failure has made us stronger and more united. It also makes the victories all the more satisfying.


So you bought ome jumpers that had been 'accidently' left in a cab eh?
nudge nudge wink wink. :wink: :wink:

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mandy wrote:
AGRO wrote:
Hi Mandy - the reference to spoons plural wasn't a crack.

But I did want to emphasise a point that had Eddie not delivered on his promise and strayed off the message of a proper reconstruction of the club, how many Collingwood members would have stuck fat, if there were 15 years of bandaid fixes and wallpapering of cracks instead of genuine rebuilding of the club from top to bottom.


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Hi AGRO

Not sure. But we did survive Ranald MacDonalds "New Magpies" that almost destroyed us in the 80's. That was probably a worse situation than you guys find yourselves in now. There's always a way back.



Most clubs were financial basket cases in the 1980's, and that was the impetus for the creation of the AFL Commission.

The only thing that probably kept most basket case clubs solvent was the injection of the 2 x $4,000,000 licence fees from the introduction of the West Coast Eagles and Brisbane Bears.

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Essendon* just installed two board members shortly after an AGM without a member vote who will continue to be on there for as long as they want.

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