which we're going to bundle up to use on a player who was anointed at birth. Nothing stupid about that!

We need a CHB . Douglas Howard ? not a bad player and at 198cm is the new normal for key backmen .

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Nick Austin drafting has a bit to answer for out of 4 drafts that he has been here for only 3 players played tonight and they were average as well and to note to he has not taken a key defender has taken 1 key forward / mid size defender/ 3 small forwards/1 mid size forward and a couple of wingers

I think we can say goodbye to Cunners at the end of this season...

We need some speed in the midfield and another key back

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Who were the three?

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my last one was rubbish

Sorry there were 4 Hollands / Cowan/motlop /carroll

We have overrated our list because we snuck into a prelim last year. We were lucky to win that semi final and most have drunk the kool-aid because of this.

We need to hit the trade/FA period aggressively this year.

There is nothing coming through.
It's a worry and he will go to draft this year again.
I think his draft selections are as bad as we have ever seen.
Acres Cerra and Holland have been reasonable trades.

We have hung onto injury prone players for to long and we used a Rookie draft selection on a player who had Injuries and hasn't even got on the park.

We have this year and maybe next but after that we will plummet.
I just can't see Lemmey Okeefe Wilson Moir Akuei Mirkov Monohan Lord Carroll and Carroll ever having a serious impact at AFL level

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while i agree with you, we have no cap space for such things.

the only way to make it happen is to trade one of our big salaries.

All options should be on the table if the season capitulates.

yeah mate, 100%

if they don't ... i propose we load the AR's and storm the capitol.

hopefully we can move some salary, and convince a couple vets to come over on cheaper deals, chasing a flag, rather than financial security, like the hawks and cats did so well when their window was open?

We have not overrated our list. I won’t buy that.

Are we allowed to name names?

I'll start by saying I'd be open to offers for Walsh if someone is still willing to pay AA prices for him. I fear that his back will stop him ever reaching his best again. Maybe someone else thinks they can fix him ("they fix everything" - Robocop).

I've made similar wrong calls about a certain key forward in the past, so take with salt grain.

haha! fk it let's name names...


i'd trade walsh too if someone wanted to pay AA prices. i'd rather keep harry, but if someone wanted to throw something mental at us, and we could pick up a mihocek type for 40% of Harry's salary, i'd look into it too.

we desperately need a CHB, pacey mid & pacey winger. and a shark of a small forward.

maybe the campo twins fill mid and winger, although the vision i've seen, they're not pacey at U18 level, which is a huge red flag for me.



i think our salary is too top heavy. too few taking up too much. we have no depth coming thru the reggies either. it's hard to see a single one of them as a 100 game player.


if we capitulate down the stretch (like we seem to be well in the midst of) i think everything should be on the table. if we're gonna go down the meek path of making up the numbers in finals for another season or two, then another decade of tanking for high picks ... i'm going to have to find a new sport to get angry about.

Carlton's window is open for another 12 months. By the time Ben and Lucas are AFL ready, our window will be closing/closed.



Might I recommend a sport that allows contracted players to be traded without them having any say? While I agree with you, the AFLs system is flawed in that the power still resides with the player. If we're interested in a player this trade period, Matt Owies and our first round pick represents our only currency, as Cuningham, Marchbank and Martin likely go for nothing. The rest are contracted. I think it'll become apparent next season that a premiership is unlikely in the very near future. For some - DeKoning, Cerra and Silvagni come to mind - it'll mean moving on in the hope of winning a flag, and for others - Docherty, Newman and Hewett - it'll mean thinking about retirement. Cripps is 30 before next season starts and Harry, Charlie and probably Weiters will be locked away until they give it away.

Austin and co need to bring in some exciting talent over the next two years and take some risks while doing so.

i don't disagree on the campo twins... i was being hopeful thinking our window might be open for 3 seasons, this being the first. and hopeful the better of the twins could hit the afl like what daicos did.


following the afl exhausts me ... which is why i've never looked up the draft and contractual stuff... so, basically every player has a no trade clause, and would have to waive it, to be traded. that's not awesome at all.


it's pretty depressing how bare our cupboards are, how full our cap is, and when we look around at what we have, it's not giving me gf winning vibes.

It’s been a pretty ordinary rebuild. Never really been convinced with our list management.

We struck gold with Cripps, Weitering, Curnow and McKay being drafted in the early days. But for whatever reason have been unable to effectively build around them.

List is uneven and lacks a few key attributes including genuine pace and too many injury prone players.

Now we have reached a point where Cripps is nearing 30 and the midfield is still a problem.

Only saving grace is the competition is extremely even and on our day we can compete with the better teams.

For all the improvements we've made over the last 3 years, we're still too heavily reliant on Cripps IMO.

Whoever was on him last night did a very good job

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I'm optimistic Cooper Lord will be able to do a similar inside role to take pressure off Cripps in due course

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