People need to take responsibility at all levels of the club Surrey.
We cant sack the coaches and think our problems are solved. The problem exists at all levels. There are issues with our direction, our lack of accountability, our lack of innovation and the obvious lack of real leadership. That can only be addressed by reviewing all aspects of the club.
Is it a personnel issue that is contributing to our malaise or is it structural? The incumbents have had ample opportunity to make accurate assessments from the inside and they have obviously failed to do so or failed to do so competently. Why let the status quo remain when its evidently not working?
Lets be honest, if the board are doing a good job, surely they have nothing to fear.

Its only the insecure and undeperforming who should fear an independent review.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

who, Kochie?

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We need two top line midfielders that are grunt and speed personified.. Like a dangerfield . I think going after daisy is just not the right strategy.what is in the draft that fits this bill.could we shake the tree during free agency and find one of these types.
We need a gun midfield with depth skill speed and wont be pushed aside. We currently have a midfield that has some good tallent and speed, but without the grunt.
Use our strengths, ie rucks and small fasts to trade. Thats the way its done.. Forget the kpp, develop what we have, and with a dominant midfield and good disposal into the f50, we will be able to gain confidence and scoring opportunites

If Thomas comes for a bosman, then he could be a worthwhile get. I have my reservations however.

Still, I'd slot him in the current team over almost half the 22 that ran out on the field on the weekend.

Outside that I just don't think the Dangerfields of the world are going to be putting their hand up for moving clubs this off season, so Thomas might be the best you're going to get unless you're GWS.

I dont understand this theory. We had a top 4 midfield for 4 years and the ball kept getting kicked back over their heads.
We need a key forward who can actually mark the ball in the corridor and on the lead. We are continually bringing the ball off half back and kicking to contests. Either that or we run the ball and kick it our midgets. How may times did we put the ball on Eddie or Jeffs head on Friday night?
Compare that to Collingwood who had Cloke and Reid taking contested marks within 20 metres.

The lack of a tall strong key forward has been killing us for years and is continuing to do so. Forget developing what we have. Nothing we have is close to a strong forward presence. Mind you, they're all late picks, makeshift forwards or rookies. What else should we expect.

Its symptomatic of where this club has been going for a decade. Floating along in the ocean with no maps or compass.
Its time for outsiders to come in and sort us out.

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Get. Rid. Of. John. Barker.....

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

Agreed. No system in the forward line since Fev left.

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I agree with the compass..but...
Whos in our top midfield /??

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well the theory is that we have a skilled and mostly fast midfield who are easily intimidated, bustled and pushed out of the way . We need to change that. Once we have a midfield with some grunt , then we will get composed forward entries to advantage rather than a dogs breakfast.

im not sure our midfield is skilled..

who is skilled??

Carrazzo judd mitch cachia curnow lucas armifield????

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Don`t understand your argument here. You want to stick with the board that has made all these decisions that you don`t like. As BV said, this same board has had plenty of time to show its worth and failed. Why not throw the positions open? They can stand again and be re-elected if the members think they have done a fantastic job.

Gibbs murphy judd

Yes let's have an independent review, just like the Australian cricket team did. Look how that panned out.

If you think an independent review will magically fix any perceived problems then good luck to you.

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Those who are blaming Mick and keep pointing to 2011 under Ratten need to remember that the game has changed since then, and also that things can go south pretty quick. The Saints and Dogs were still battling out Finals in those years, and look where they are now.

Judd is now past it
Gibbs turns up when he feels like it
Murphy still cant shake a tag
Waite cant stay on the park for more then 2 seconds
The Brothers up forward fo missing too often
Kreuzer hasn't come on like we d hoped

Too many tagger type players
Too many players still shirk a contest
Too many players still cant kick
Too many players still cant tackle
Too many players are scared to take a shot at goal
Still have crap player development
Still have crap injury managementStill reliant on the Pratt/Mathisen money

Reckon Mick came in, had a look at the players in the Pre Season and the first part of this year, and has gone back to Sticks and Swann and said, hey, this list isn't what you thought it was. We aren't going to go anywhere near a flag with this mob. He knows the ingredients to a successful side, and a list that includes spuds like Joseph, Collins and Davies isn't it.
Hence why even before our flogging last Friday, Swann was flagging 'radical' changes to our list at the end of the year.
Basically, we haveto accept that the Ratten/Judd/Sticks(Pratt) era was a missed opportunity.

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Burn the flower joint to the ground and salt the earth.

Relocate or merge or hand the keys into the AFL. The pumpkins running the joint are a flower disgrace.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I think one of the main failures of the club is a total disregard to honesty.... From off field to onfield

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The first thing is to start from the top ... the president. I have a lot of time for Sticks but he isn't the right bloke ... he knows that too and unfortunately nobody from these so called gung ho board members has the balls to put their hand up. Where are these sons and son in laws of billionaires ... has any of them achieved anything on their own ... would they get a look in at board level if they were not the sons and son in laws of billionaires.

We are fast becoming like Melbourne. I heard Eddie Maguire on radio a few months back where he mentioned that he had approached very successful business people and captains of industry about taking over the presidency of Melbourne but all came up with the same excuse ... "don't have time".

If we had a revered president do you think we would have traded pick 24 for Warnock ??? Especially after using pick 1 and 17 very recently on ruckmen ??? It would never have happened. The people responsible would have feared the repercussions and backed out.

We need to stop employing people on misguided perceptions like ... "well he was the CEO of Collingwood, so yeah he must be the best". Practically anybody could do any position at the well oiled machine that is called the Collingwood Football Club. That machine was built by their president who had the foresight to take a big club away from "thinking small" (Victoria Park) and moving to Olympic Park and the MCG whilst we kept "thinking small" (Princes Park) because our president had a stand named after him.

We need to employ on merit.

What did Icke and Hughes achieve at Freo ? C'mon ... I have been waiting for this answer but nobody comes forth.

The Board of the club is in dire need of a massive overhaul, until that happens nothing else will be resolved or improved upon.

An independent review would be a good thing only if those at the top committed themselves to implement any recommendations regardless of how that affected their own standing personally.

I wouldn't even trust the current board to appoint the person to undertake the review, that appointment needs to be made by an independent body.

The club itself desperately needs fixing, not just the team that represents it.

Been drinking tonight Cimm? Probably time you give it away I reckon...(not the grog - the club...you seem more a bitter Freo supporter anyway)