what's happened to the great tackling ability we had?
what's up with hendo? is he injured?
why is Menzel shoved around in position so much?
I thought we were developing him as a forward?
Walker..ok, I hear he is injured..he does not jump anymore.
Gibbs and Yaz..big ticks ..we are getting what we hoped for, and it is hopefully consistent.
Levi...seen glimpses of greatness. he is shoved around in position too.
Warnock?? Who knows..no conistency.
What happens when Kreuzer comes back?
I dunno..morale seems pretty low, and a good coach should at least have the mental aspect of the group happening by now. I use Roosy as Exhibit A here. and Hinkley as B.
We can argue about the talent of the list and we'll never agree. I loved watching the team not so long ago, and now..well gosh it's a struggle isn't it? It's like the players are waiting for next year too, like the supporters, and that aint good surely??
I guess what I'm saying Rhino is..I want to agree with you, but I can't see it the way you do.
Nothing has shown me that this is the way to go. I see an overrated man who wants revenge, and to break a record, and a bad coach who blames his players. i don't see the boys busting a gut to play for themselves ,the jumper or the coach. I reckon that's due to the coach.
I will be happy to be wrong I promise!
Most depressing and joyless footy year ever for me.
TC and 'the' thread..the only pluses.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

..we're on our own.... ..lower expectations, and if we come good with the next crop, be pleasantly surprised..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

bubble bubble toil and trouble

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Roos is so overrated.

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dane's trolling again

simple.....two years ago Ratts didint have to live with the legacy of our super 2010 - 2012 drafts

I agree that everything you've listed there is a legitimate concern. They're there to see on a weekly basis.

I think the difference between us and a Port or a Melbourne, is that there are legitimate obstacles at Carlton in the way to sustained long term success that aren't as easily removed as they were at Port or Melbourne. Obstacles that can take us to the glorious heights of 2011 again, but not much else.

I think the AFL are happy to keep those obstacles - the Pratts, the Mathiesons, et al around as it's one less financial basket case on their hands.

As such, need someone experienced enough to negotiate these obstacles. MM fits that criteria for mine. If the majority of those players on the list are victims of that necessity, so be it. Don't think too much of them anyway.

If the board falls - great, MM should go or a formal handover should be put in place as there was rightly done at Collingwood. He's no longer a necessity, as there would (hopefully) be an environment for the rightful candidate to do his thing.

There's no quick fix here.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

The only very good players drafted by the club apart from early picks since 1995 have been Hamill, Fevola, Houlihan, Simpson and Betts.
four of those were drafted by Shane O.


Thats a killer..!

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The new Prez doesn't seem to be a big fan.

Initially read that as "Port Melbourne" and thought you were going to espouse the virtues of Gary Ayres. I'll stop drinking now...

What makes you say that?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Who doesn't love Gary Ayres?

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dane's trolling again

Um...not only do you have negative credibility you also cannot read.
I have never said anything of the sort.

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dane's trolling again

We have a lot of players who have major deficiencies in their game. Couple that with a gameplan that appears ponderously slow at times and it's a wonder we've won any games.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

I have and will continue to advocate for the likes of your Gary Ayreses coaching the likes of your Carltons, your St Kildas, your Bulldogs.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

-1,000,000,000,000,000%

Yep. A lot of truth in that. It is dire for our club right now.
Just bulldoze the lot of 'em.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

ya know, if MM showed he was ready to mentor a takeover champ coach,
I'd be more inclined to support him.
It'd be reason to hope if he enticed Lingy for eg:

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Can't see Ling wanting to come near us after the year we're having.

But then again everyone said that Vossy was the next big thing before he actually coached a season.
Maybe Ling will be a flop anyway

We are the drama blues
Our supporters love drama with their blues

a floppy ling, that sounds painful.

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