Its all going according to my plan.........

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Same and I believe it is the main difference between good teams and the Blueys ... good teams back each other in to win the one on ones and run forward or make space.

It´s obvious at Carlton at the moment that all players go to the contest because we DONT back the team mate to win the ball, leaving an opponent free. Much like the steering wheel down my trousers ... it´s driving me nuts!

Very difficult to play corridor football when the 'corridor' runs only from full back to the centre, with nothing to kick to beyond that. If Pagan wants that, why not encourage it by giving them something to kick to? Why not play Fevola out of the square, leading to about 30-40 out, rather than this one-trick pony nonsense of running toward goal into empty space? We're seeing dinky short passes because often there's simply nothing to kick to. Either our players as a group are totally unable to follow or comprehend his orders, have learned nothing in those 2 and half years, or the tactics simply don't work. Whatever the cause, something has to change, and it's Pagan's job to do that.

This whole empty forward line thing with everyone supposedly bolting forward into space when we gain possession simply doesn't work, particularly when we struggle to hit targets The only time we've looked like scoring is when we've set up with something like a traditional looking forward line and given our midfield something to work with.

The players look confused at the moment, and caught awkwardly somewhere between Pagan's old paddock tactics and what we should be playing - man-on-man, accountable corridor football. Give each bloke a man, tell them to stick like glue and contest. Keep it simple for crying out loud. It's back to basics time, and the moment has arrived for Pagan to admit his tactics have left our players hanging out to dry.

Ruckus, there's too many numbers at the HF line - some players are being selfish and staying out of the contest in order to create an option further afield or making space. Hence our HF line is crowded and our forward structure is shambolic at best.

The paddock didn't really come into play until the last quarter when finally we had an open F50. But the problem is that in order to have an open F50 you need fewer players in there with more space to work in.

BTW, Fev was playing out of the square most of the first 2 quarters, except the ball never got past HF - because we bombed it to the flanks - hence he was pushed up the ground.

Having said that we don't have anyone who's capable of taking a contested grab or splitting a pack. Morrell tried and did well yesterday. Better than Lance could do as a CHF. I'd like to see what Hartlett could do for us when he comes back from injury.

There's no game plan more simple than Denis' Ruckus. Denis always wants a contest, each man to beat his man. I don't see how people can claim that these aren't Denis' instructions.

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I really feel that the assistance coaches are not doing there planning for match games at all.
If the coaches had of watched the Hawk-Dees game they would have noticed that Hairthorn played a tagger on Clint Bizzel ( Also tagged Chris Johnson in the Lions game) and took Clint out of the game, this reduced what he does best, play as a loose man, chop off leads and provides run out of their defence.

Clint's stats against the Hawks
1 kick, 1 handball and 1 mark for the total game.

Clint's stats against the Blues yesterday
17 kicks, 10 handballs and 13 marks for the total game.

Attacking the ball, too many times yesterday players sat back and waited for the ball to come to them rather than attacking the footy.

Every week, same old things, skills error always cost us goal, too loose, their midfield just runs forward and provides heaps of options and we couldn't tackle a granny with a walking stick...

Bombing the ball into the forward just doesn't work, teams just plan for this and we play into their hands.

As Danny Frawley just mentioned on channel 9 during the match review, Carlton just bomb the ball into the f50, this is Clint's bread and butter and just mops it up.....

I they have a player or two loose in defense we should have a player or two loose in the midfield so we should win there right?????

WRONG!!!!!


our players are too dumb... and are unaccountable. Cant do much about dumb footballers... you just have to draft smart ones... and turn them over like old soil for fresh soil to make the garden work...

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Did we bomb it in during the Wizard Cup? NO

Do we look better when we bomb it in? NO

Do you honestly think that Denis doesn't know this?

Kicking it long is NOT bombing it in. People don't get it do they

You bomb in as a last resort not for the sake of doing it because it's apparently the "plan" - because it's NOT.

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All kids that the club is looking at recruiting from now on should have to take an IQ test...

Our loose man is always in the backline but it never seems to help.



Not really Synbad, you can just add SHIT to the garden to it get going. Sounds like our 2003 trading period.



Kicking it long to a pack of players standing still is bombing it in to me.. your just hoping someone in blue can mark it.

Kicking it long to a forward player on the lead in a one-on-one contest is not bombing it. This only happened 2-3 times yesterday.

PRECISELY!

Do you think just bombing it is better? No, well, neither do I. Do you think Denis doesn't know this? For a guy who's in the game longer than I have, you'd think so.

The players just go bomb it because they lack confidence to hit a target. Denis' plan is NOT just "bomb it long" - it's kick long and direct to a target.

Why do you think he talks about butchering the ball and not hitting targets? Because that's what he wants!!!

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bosman youre a smart bloke arent you??

Im assuming you are... ok seeing youre a smart bloke do you think Denis asks them to kick it to better oprions when they can???

Ok now we might think they can.... but why dont they???Is it cos they cant kick to a target so its EASIER to bomb it long then cause a turnover???

Simpletons take simplistic approaches to whats going on...

I think the advantage i have over you is ive watched them train over and over again and see what theyre meant to do.

some of them even bomb it to contests in circle work so their poor skills dont stand out.

Thats not Denis fault is it???

Weve already added the shit to the garden were turning it over and should bring in some new top soil.

To argue with Denis..is ridiculous... cos he has seen it all before.

There is nothing you or i can teach Denis about the actual game.
He has seen every possible hack there is.. hes seen every kind of bludger and cheat... hes had teams flood to him in the past...

Questioning what he knows about the game is laughable.. especially from couch potatos. (Like me and you)

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Well f*(&^*(&ing why aren't the forwards leading? How many times did you see the forwards just waving their hands back towards the goals??? Our forward line gets clogged because the other clubs are flooding.

Which reminds me someone said last week that Pagan floods more than others... absolute bollocks. 10 minutes yesterday but while Melbourne had a spare man the whole time, our spare man was on the wing trying to get the clearances. Unfortuantely we weren't good enough.

Back on to bombing. If our disposal was better, or our forwards led better, maybe we could play it smarter. But if you're running into goal 70 metres out (unless you're Campo and you take 2 bounces and no one comes near you and you still miss) and there's no solid lead in front of you, and a pack of 5 at the goal face... you have no other option!

I disagree with anyone who thinks that bomb long to the contest is the game plan, its the back-up plan and common course of action.

(Is this what you wanted CC?)

and bosman in the garden were creating were not trying to grow vegetables.. were trying to win flags.
at the moment we are growing vegetables.
Were not hippies here were a footy club.

so we dont need the shit...

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Yes and No...
No, its nots Denis's fault that players don't listen.
Yes, it is Denis's fault for letting them get away with it and pull on the navy blue if they don't follow his gameplan. I fully support Denis if he has to make an example by axing players (don't care who it is, Kouta, Campo, Fev, Lance, Scotland etc) and let them have a game or two at the bullants until they are ready to listen. Bring it on..



Never questioned what Denis knows about the game. I did question why they never looked at what Hawthorn did and tag Clint Bizzel, he chopped out so many f50 entries yesterday. Now is this Denis's job or the job of some of the assistance down there ?

Now excuse me while I go and cut the grass and do a few things, go a 5km run so I can come back in the sit on the couch and watch some footy.