Brett Ratten named coach - press conference update p23

nightcrawler · **Joined:** Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:48 am **Posts:** 2891

kennyhunter wrote:

Ratts will be announced as coach early next week.

Like a few others, I was a Bond fan. But have no real objection to Ratten getting the job.

The important thing is that everyone gets behind the decision once it is made and gives the new guy 100% support.

DIAMOTISM · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:46 am

nightcrawler wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

Ratts will be announced as coach early next week.

Like a few others, I was a Bond fan. But have no real objection to Ratten getting the job.

The important thing is that everyone gets behind the decision once it is made and gives the new guy 100% support.

I might purchase the following domain names now so the ferals can't get to them:
www.sackratts.com
www.sackratten.com
www.sackrattennow.com
www.sackbrettratten.com

I am sure there will be a few people wanting to purchase these domains after this weekend after we smash the bummers.

dannyboy · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:58 am

I heard Ratts played backwards sounds a lot like Denis Pagan

mikkey · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:27 pm **Posts:** 4129

Seems the club tries to help Ratts by hiring a senior assistant coach with experience:

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/connolly-in-demand-to-support-ratten/2007/08/16/1186857682138.html

Quote:

It is understood that the Blues want to support Ratten with at least one experienced, contemporary figure and that Connolly, who coached the Dockers for almost six seasons and is in Melbourne for interviews with the Demons, has been spoken to about the role in recent days.

JohnM · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:47 am

I think that's a good idea.

With Icke, Hughes and Connolly, we'd sure be gettin' the band back together, wouldn't we?

Pity we couldn't add Pav to the list.

AGRO · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:55 am

JohnM wrote:

I think that's a good idea.

With Icke, Hughes and Connolly, we'd sure be gettin' the band back together, wouldn't we?

Pity we couldn't add Pav to the list.

Well they said they couldn't get Mr Fabulous away from that high paying gig either. :wink:

camel · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:01 am

nightcrawler wrote:

kennyhunter wrote:

Ratts will be announced as coach early next week.

Like a few others, I was a Bond fan...

Connery or Moore?

billc3 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:41 pm **Posts:** 4629

AGRO wrote:

JohnM wrote:

I think that's a good idea.

With Icke, Hughes and Connolly, we'd sure be gettin' the band back together, wouldn't we?

Pity we couldn't add Pav to the list.

Well they said they couldn't get Mr Fabulous away from that high paying gig either. :wink:

Pav,

We gunna get that SOB , if it's the last thing we ever do

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

Not sure I would want Connolly breathing over my shoulder if I was Ratten that would make me uncomfortable having a ready made replacement on standby.....maybe the club want some insurance if Ratten doesnt measure up..

Kouta · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:50 am

JohnM wrote:

I think that's a good idea.

With Icke, Hughes and Connolly, we'd sure be gettin' the band back together, wouldn't we?

Pity we couldn't add Pav to the list.

You forgot Shane Rogers.

camel · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:28 pm

billc3 wrote:

AGRO wrote:

JohnM wrote:

I think that's a good idea.

With Icke, Hughes and Connolly, we'd sure be gettin' the band back together, wouldn't we?

Pity we couldn't add Pav to the list.

Well they said they couldn't get Mr Fabulous away from that high paying gig either. :wink:

Pav,

We gunna get that SOB , if it's the last thing we ever do

He'll be too old by the time his next contract runs out.

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17247

I got a funny feeling that it's Bond who's got this job...I'll tell you why.

Greg Swann is not a footy man - he talks in business speak and the manner in which he has addressed the media about the process and where the club is at with regard to an appointment tells me that Ratts - whilst he's done most everything right - is not the man for the job.

I'll give you this line quoted to Swann from this morning's paper.

We have identified a bloke and gone out and got him

Well - they really didn't have to identify Ratts - he was under their noses and they certainly didn't go out and get him...he's been sitting there for a while. I get the feeling that that's the biggest clue Swanny's going to let out of the bag until the 'SHOCK' press conference....and the club must prepare themselves for the jolt they're going to get when the media come out and openly critisize the club for the unfair treatment of Brett Ratten 'who displayed loyalty for dropping out of the Melbourne coaching race to concentrate on the role he needed to perform for his beloved Blues'....etc...etc.

I really think both blokes will be very good coaches. Bond deserves a senior coaching gig...yet if I've got 'Swann Speak' right - they've 'identified' Chris Bond and they've 'Gone out and Got Him'. If it were Ratts job...I think you'd find he'd be saying...'We're pretty confident who we want coaching the footy club next year and an annoucement is pending within the next 2 weeks'.

If this is the case - the meeting going on now is how to deal with this internally and how to get this decision over the line with as little fallout as possible.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:56 pm

bonds on a hiding to nothing if you're right

camel · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:29 pm

mikkey wrote:

Seems the club tries to help Ratts by hiring a senior assistant coach with experience:

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/connolly-in-demand-to-support-ratten/2007/08/16/1186857682138.html

Quote:

It is understood that the Blues want to support Ratten with at least one experienced, contemporary figure and that Connolly, who coached the Dockers for almost six seasons and is in Melbourne for interviews with the Demons, has been spoken to about the role in recent days.

I'm a bit uneasy about that. Especially as it almost seems as if Sticks and Bear get their mate across the line, giving Icke a return favour to get one of his mates across the line.

I'm all for Ratts getting a crack at the senior gig, but let him do it his own way, not with some "guardian" of Connolly's ilk.

Rocco Iguana · **Joined:** Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:37 pm **Posts:** 1362

Caoch Ratts anytime .....

not because he was a hard working, unpretentious, team focussed and successful football player, who got the most out himself !

not because he commands respect from players because of what he does and how he does it !

not because we have a team which with a few tweeks, is close to leading us to success, a team which in its current configuration is responding very well to his coaching style and work ethic !

not because we can employ/add to our list of experienced and capable assistant coaches and other footbal dept personnel !

not because he walks softly and carries a big stick !

and certainly not because Ratts is a true Blue in all respects !!!!

:roll:

Rocco

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

camelboy wrote:

mikkey wrote:

Seems the club tries to help Ratts by hiring a senior assistant coach with experience:

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/connolly-in-demand-to-support-ratten/2007/08/16/1186857682138.html

Quote:

It is understood that the Blues want to support Ratten with at least one experienced, contemporary figure and that Connolly, who coached the Dockers for almost six seasons and is in Melbourne for interviews with the Demons, has been spoken to about the role in recent days.

I'm a bit uneasy about that. Especially as it almost seems as if Sticks and Bear get their mate across the line, giving Icke a return favour to get one of his mates across the line.

I'm all for Ratts getting a crack at the senior gig, but let him do it his own way, not with some "guardian" of Connolly's ilk.

From what I've seen and heard from Connolly he could very well be a great aquisition for our coaching team. Comes across as genuine, not full of himself, calm and cool in a crisis and basically shows class as an individual who would play his part well and be respectfull of his co-workers.
Would be happy for him to on board.

grrofunger · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:50 pm

Channel 7 morning news (im in perth) just announced ratten has the job as fact and it will be announced monday

CarltonClem · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:17 pm

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

I got a funny feeling that it's Bond who's got this job...I'll tell you why.

Greg Swann is not a footy man - he talks in business speak and the manner in which he has addressed the media about the process and where the club is at with regard to an appointment tells me that Ratts - whilst he's done most everything right - is not the man for the job.

I'll give you this line quoted to Swann from this morning's paper.

We have identified a bloke and gone out and got him

Well - they really didn't have to identify Ratts - he was under their noses and they certainly didn't go out and get him...he's been sitting there for a while. I get the feeling that that's the biggest clue Swanny's going to let out of the bag until the 'SHOCK' press conference....and the club must prepare themselves for the jolt they're going to get when the media come out and openly critisize the club for the unfair treatment of Brett Ratten 'who displayed loyalty for dropping out of the Melbourne coaching race to concentrate on the role he needed to perform for his beloved Blues'....etc...etc.

I really think both blokes will be very good coaches. Bond deserves a senior coaching gig...yet if I've got 'Swann Speak' right - they've 'identified' Chris Bond and they've 'Gone out and Got Him'. If it were Ratts job...I think you'd find he'd be saying...'We're pretty confident who we want coaching the footy club next year and an annoucement is pending within the next 2 weeks'.

If this is the case - the meeting going on now is how to deal with this internally and how to get this decision over the line with as little fallout as possible.

Sherrin, whilst it's definitely a possible reading of what Swann has been saying it tends to ignore the human psyche.

Why would Ratts not keep his head in the coaching interview circuit if he didn't have a firm job for next year? It kind of defies belief unless he has a ridiculous amount of belief in himself that he will be able to coach another club (be it Fremantle or Essendon*) that borders on arrogance.

I'm neither here nor there as to who we should appoint, I want the best person. However, it is also possible to read Swann as saying that they've identified the right person (champion player, good teacher, develops young players well etc etc and other KPI's) and got him - and they got him by firing Denis Pagan.

If Bond becomes coach - good - I will give him support and expect improved success on the field from next year. If Ratten becomes coach - same.

I do not believe, however, that Connolly would be "insurance" if Ratten failed. If he needs insurance, then isn't Ratten the wrong man for the job? I think Connolly's job would be more on the player development side if he was appointed, of which he probably did fairly well at Freo (judging by the numbers of good young players he brought through - Schammer, Crowley, Mundy, Michael Johnson etc.)

camel · **Posted:** Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:20 pm

budzy wrote:

From what I've seen and heard from Connolly he could very well be a great aquisition for our coaching team. Comes across as genuine, not full of himself, calm and cool in a crisis and basically shows class as an individual who would play his part well and be respectfull of his co-workers.
Would be happy for him to on board.

Is he cool or calm in a crisis, or just ambivalent becuase he's unable to do anything about it?

How much blame should he accept for Freo's appalling tribunal record this year? And, then, there's the matter of their shocking underperformance over the past few years. Their the handbags of the 21st century. How he managied to hoodwink so many people into thinking they would make top 4 this year still astounds me. They're been nothing but pretty boy pretenders with Connolly at the helm. There may be other issues at the club equally as responsible for this as the coach, but I get the feeling that Harvey won't stand for some of the petulant on field rubbish the players got away with under Connolloy's watch.

Sorry, not impressed with him at all. Admiteddly an opinion formed from the couch of the cameldome, but, yeah, nah. Good sense of humour, that's probably about it.

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

CarltonClem wrote:

Dr.SHERRIN wrote:

I got a funny feeling that it's Bond who's got this job...I'll tell you why.

Greg Swann is not a footy man - he talks in business speak and the manner in which he has addressed the media about the process and where the club is at with regard to an appointment tells me that Ratts - whilst he's done most everything right - is not the man for the job.

I'll give you this line quoted to Swann from this morning's paper.

We have identified a bloke and gone out and got him

Well - they really didn't have to identify Ratts - he was under their noses and they certainly didn't go out and get him...he's been sitting there for a while. I get the feeling that that's the biggest clue Swanny's going to let out of the bag until the 'SHOCK' press conference....and the club must prepare themselves for the jolt they're going to get when the media come out and openly critisize the club for the unfair treatment of Brett Ratten 'who displayed loyalty for dropping out of the Melbourne coaching race to concentrate on the role he needed to perform for his beloved Blues'....etc...etc.

I really think both blokes will be very good coaches. Bond deserves a senior coaching gig...yet if I've got 'Swann Speak' right - they've 'identified' Chris Bond and they've 'Gone out and Got Him'. If it were Ratts job...I think you'd find he'd be saying...'We're pretty confident who we want coaching the footy club next year and an annoucement is pending within the next 2 weeks'.

If this is the case - the meeting going on now is how to deal with this internally and how to get this decision over the line with as little fallout as possible.

Sherrin, whilst it's definitely a possible reading of what Swann has been saying it tends to ignore the human psyche.

Why would Ratts not keep his head in the coaching interview circuit if he didn't have a firm job for next year? It kind of defies belief unless he has a ridiculous amount of belief in himself that he will be able to coach another club (be it Fremantle or Essendon*) that borders on arrogance.

I'm neither here nor there as to who we should appoint, I want the best person. However, it is also possible to read Swann as saying that they've identified the right person (champion player, good teacher, develops young players well etc etc and other KPI's) and got him - and they got him by firing Denis Pagan.

If Bond becomes coach - good - I will give him support and expect improved success on the field from next year. If Ratten becomes coach - same.

I do not believe, however, that Connolly would be "insurance" if Ratten failed. If he needs insurance, then isn't Ratten the wrong man for the job? I think Connolly's job would be more on the player development side if he was appointed, of which he probably did fairly well at Freo (judging by the numbers of good young players he brought through - Schammer, Crowley, Mundy, Michael Johnson etc.)

For a ex senior coach with more runs on the board than Ratten its a fair step down the pecking order to be assisting a rookie coach....Its the sort of thing a bum ex coach like Gary Ayres would do but not one with a bit of profile like Connolly. I would have expected him to do the media stuff if he didnt get a job much like Eade or Wallace did...

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