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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Lingy and Black are not coming

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6471801059

so at the moment if is the Grey Fox and The Wiley old Fox

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:27 pm 
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx
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"The only say I have is to have a structure in place that I am comfortable with," he said.

"That structure at Carlton under Brett Ratten is totally different to the structure that I would like. Not personnel - just the structure.


hmmm... wonder what he means by this ?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:29 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147414/default.aspx
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"The only say I have is to have a structure in place that I am comfortable with," he said.

"That structure at Carlton under Brett Ratten is totally different to the structure that I would like. Not personnel - just the structure.


hmmm... wonder what he means by this ?

He means he didn't like the personnel.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:32 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/147414/default.aspx
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"The only say I have is to have a structure in place that I am comfortable with," he said.

"That structure at Carlton under Brett Ratten is totally different to the structure that I would like. Not personnel - just the structure.


hmmm... wonder what he means by this ?

He means he didn't like the personnel.

of course - I should've known ! :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:34 pm 
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This article has quite a few quotes from the presser...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6470925094

You need a subscription (I'm still leeching off my free one, so peeps have a go if you want), but here's a snippet:




Or go to a paywall unencumbered copy of the same story:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl ... 6470925094

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:35 pm 
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Still find it funny that when MM pulled this shit at collingwood, he was prickly and grumpy and a bastard. Now he's ours, he's merely putting the journo's back in their place :lol:



So true. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:37 pm 
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...Last thing the Filth need is probably an army of journos headed their way with a final on the weekend and it can only be a matter of time before the press sets off the Mick vs Bucks vs Eddie McChins feud real or otherwise...


Carlton coach Mick Malthouse the big winner in Collingwood succession plan
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6471668696

Make sure you cast your vote in the poll. And ignore the bit about Moloney. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:40 pm 
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I loved in the presser when he was asked about Cloke and he paused for effect then said..."absolutely". Sticks heard nervously laughing in the background.

End result probably that Cloke will still sign with the filth and that we are no chance to get him but...

the rockshow since the presser has immediately descended back on the filth! I've read articles with interviews from cloke's old man etc etc. Last thing the Filth need is probably an army of journos headed their way with a final on the weekend and it can only be a matter of time before the press sets off the Mick vs Bucks vs Eddie McChins feud real or otherwise.

Maybe I'm reading into it a bit but I thought I saw a bit of gamesmanship there. feed the rabble what they want and deflect a bit of attention in the process!


Yep :thumbsup:

Collectively, the football media are predictable and obedient. You don't need to try too hard to get them to do your work for you, and I'm constantly surprised at how poor (G'day Ratts) some senior coaches are at using them.

Mick's pretty much near the top of class on that front. Sheedy, of course, wrote the textbook.

Still find it funny that when MM pulled this shit at collingwood, he was prickly and grumpy and a bastard. Now he's ours, he's merely putting the journo's back in their place :lol:

voilà !! - I want Cloke: Mick


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:41 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
2ndeffort wrote:
...Last thing the Filth need is probably an army of journos headed their way with a final on the weekend and it can only be a matter of time before the press sets off the Mick vs Bucks vs Eddie McChins feud real or otherwise...


Carlton coach Mick Malthouse the big winner in Collingwood succession plan
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/more-ne ... 6471668696

Make sure you cast your vote in the poll. And ignore the bit about Moloney. :lol:



http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl ... 6471668696

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:03 pm 
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I feel a lot more confident after today that we're not going to land Cloke.

Good rah rah to convince potential members we're going after the best players available....even if they're not coming to us.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:08 pm 
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Got my navy blue mojo back. :smoking:

Haven't been the same since the GC loss, and then really lost it when we kicked so poorly to lose in the last game of the season.

Never really liked MM after he left Footscray...for lots of reasons....glad he's in the Old Dark Navy Blue with a point to prove and a very good list...with Trade period around the corner.

COME ON CARLTON!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:14 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
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"That structure at Carlton under Brett Ratten is totally different to the structure that I would like. Not personnel - just the structure."


hmmm... wonder what he means by this ?



It's like when someone says "don't feel bad, it's not you....it's me"

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:15 pm 
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[youtube]TwNw-oPknjw[/youtube]

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[youtube]TwNw-oPknjw[/youtube]


The only downside I can see is we have to wait 198 days until we play the Tiges in Rnd 1 next year!

FLOWER I'M EXCITED

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:21 pm 
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[youtube]TwNw-oPknjw[/youtube]


Love the vid.

I wonder why the Melbourne storm chick was there to greet MM at around 1:35...or was she a Docker.

Who was the gentleman with the good suntan and wearing a light coloured suit jacket and the little guy with the big smile who gave MM a big welcome hug?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:25 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Rexy wrote:
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"That structure at Carlton under Brett Ratten is totally different to the structure that I would like. Not personnel - just the structure."


hmmm... wonder what he means by this ?



It's like when someone says "don't feel bad, it's not you....it's me"


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:36 pm 
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"The old saying is, you play with fire, you get burnt. That's the [AFL] environment," Ratten told SEN. "You know fully well when you get in there that you are going to be under enormous pressure and scrutiny, and especially at a club like Carlton that cops a lot of media focus and there is a lot of expectation.
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"That expectation should never wane from the football club because it has been one of its greatest strengths, but also behind the scenes that can be its greatest weakness because it does put some ... stress and pressure, not really on the coach but also on the playing group ... and they have got to carry sometimes that burden." - Brett Ratten


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/b ... z268kUxiCR



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Just goes to show that a club can't afford to put a bloke in as senior coach who feels the weight of expectation as a burden, rather than an opportunity to achieve something great.

This is why the most successful coaches seemingly have very healthy egos. Most people with normal characters wilt under pressure. A few actually rise to the challenge. A senior coach who thinks pressure and expectation is a bad thing to put on senior players because it's some kind of burden?? Wow. That's just missing the mark entirely.

Malthouse may not be the kind of bloke you invite over for dinner, but I don't think he sees a club's expectations of success as a cross to bear. He may be doing this purely because his ego demands it, but at least he won't feel crushed under the weight of expectation.

Another interesting quote from that article is that Ratten said "We always had a footy subcommittee meeting with Greg Swann, Richard Newton, Sticks and Adrian Gleeson. We always caught up and had a chat about where the team was"

Not sure how healthy those kinds of meetings are.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:36 pm 
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Woman wearing purple is the media manager. Don't know about the others.

Gee Collingwood supporters are a bit touchy this arvo :lol:


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