R6: Carlton Vs GWS (Post Match discussion)

GWS · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 1:14 pm

I know a lot of people were expecting a 20 goal shellacking (including me) but GWS may not provide as many of those as many of us have expected.

So far their results are as follows:

63 to Sydney
129 to North
81 to West Coast
46 to Adelaide
42 to Dogs
67 to Carlton

It might have been nice to bank a little more percentage but their average losing margin is 71 points so far.

It wasn't a great game for us but we haven't really lost anything and if this keeps a lid on things and the coaching and playing groups focused on what still needs improving then I'd actually prefer that than a spanking which papers over the cracks.

bluegirl72 · **Joined:** Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm **Posts:** 23934

So nice to see the warmth and affection shown by the boys toward Santy.
Hopefully it puts to bed any talk f him not being liked by his team mates.

teknodeejay · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:30 pm **Posts:** 2897

The next four games are all winnable. The next two weeks are the hardest of those four. St Kilda will put up a fight (although no ruckman and no Fisher hurts them badly).

Adelaide I think are the biggest chance of beating us over the next 4 games and with just a 6 day break for us. Hopefully Geelong beat them up next weekend.

camel · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 1:46 pm

harker wrote:

camelboy wrote:

Even if we did kick straight I still reckon it would have been one of the poorest 15-20 goal wins ever. :lol:

This is true, but it seems that Sydney and West Coast have overcome that problem by beating GWS by a similar amount.
Essendon* seem to have got on top of the problem of just scraping home against GC, also.

There is really nothing more to take from this game than the four points and to now get serious.

Yep, it's out of my system now; move on to the Saints. :beer:

Wojee · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:17 am **Posts:** 35135

Cazzesman wrote:

Wojee wrote:

One of the most unconvincing 11 goal wins I've ever seen. Judd and Waite weren't the only players resting this weekend, I reckon half the team looked like their minds were on beer o'clock.

Having abit of a mental release is not a bad thing in a tough competition where the difference between a win and a loss is mostly between the ears. Think big picture stuff rather than being the school yard bully.

Regards Cazzesman

The team brought practice match intensity and that's more than enough to account for GWS at this stage so I don't mind them coasting through the match at all provided they're able to fire up for the Saints.

Cazzesman · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:04 pm

harker wrote:

Cazzesman wrote:

Having abit of a mental release is not a bad thing in a tough competition where the difference between a win and a loss is mostly between the ears. Think big picture stuff rather than being the school yard bully.

Regards Cazzesman

Can't help agreeing with you Caz.

Unlike Mrs Caz, don't fight the urge. :wink:

Regards Cazzesman

Shanghai Blues · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:04 pm

I am fine with the win, we got through an average game with a 10 goal margin. It is not possible to go through the whole season with high intensity and it is better that we build up for the upcoming matches against Geelong and WCE over the 5 weeks where we are against opposition that we are expected to win against.

It can also not be expected that every player will play well every week, yet that is some peoples' expectation.

It may be an old cliche but the season is a marathon and we need to time our sprint in September. Some times a low key churn through a weaker oppostion sets us for the bigger picture goal.

missnaut · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:16 pm

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

FFS people, we are 5-1 (after a 0-5 start :razz:

), healthy percentage, a third of our team still to come back. Look on the bright side.

But who's going to kick our goals?

:razz:

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:30 pm

GWS wrote:

I know a lot of people were expecting a 20 goal shellacking (including me) but GWS may not provide as many of those as many of us have expected.

So far their results are as follows:

63 to Sydney
129 to North
81 to West Coast
46 to Adelaide
42 to Dogs
67 to Carlton

It might have been nice to bank a little more percentage but their average losing margin is 71 points so far.

It wasn't a great game for us but we haven't really lost anything and if this keeps a lid on things and the coaching and playing groups focused on what still needs improving then I'd actually prefer that than a spanking which papers over the cracks.

You also have to look at the teams both GWS and their opponent had on those days
Mind you it was not GWS strongest line up yesterday
Sheedy has been swinging several changes every week
Swans , Dogs , North and Crows were at full strength
WC left out Glass and Priddas
We went in without Judd Waite Yarren Curnow

Donstuie · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:41 pm

Hammer "I think we got a bit complacent"

Quote:

CARLTON ruckman Shaun Hampson admits the Blues were guilty of complacency in Sunday's win over lowly Greater Western Sydney at Etihad Stadium.

Carlton, who left out several stars including captain Chris Judd, ended up winning by 67 points, but were only 10 points clear at the main break.

Hampson says it took some strong words from coach Brett Ratten at half-time to rouse them into top gear.

"We weren't happy at all with our first half," Hampson said on Monday.

"I think we got a bit complacent.

"We got a bake at half-time from the coach.

"We came out and started cracking in and playing the sort of footy we trained to play."

The Blues were well beaten in the clearances and Hampson said the Giants were remarkably physical and good in close for a team stacked with teenagers.

He said Carlton had fallen into the trap early in the game of expecting less than total commitment would be enough to beat such youthful opposition.

"It's quite easy to get caught in that loop when you're playing good footy and you come up against a young side like that," he said.

"You can just take the foot off the pedal five per cent and that's all it takes.

"If you do that, you give teams like that half a chance.

"Once we started cracking in like we were supposed to do, we turned it around."

Kouta · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 2:48 pm

And we won by ten goals with no injuries.

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#Carltonsupporters

The Carlton doctors put Brogan back out there.

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17261

bluegirl72 wrote:

So nice to see the warmth and affection shown by the boys toward Santy.
Hopefully it puts to bed any talk of him not being liked by his team mates.

He was always liked as a person. A nicer person you'd be hard pressed to meet. As a teammate, there was friction some of the time. Happens in every footy club, professional or amateur. When the siren sounded, injured or not - he was Setanta o'hAilpin, the big, friendly Irishman who will always hold a special place in many Carlton supporters hearts.

lily of laguna · **Joined:** Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:37 pm **Posts:** 417

Yep a genuine great guy always happy to chat and of course loved being a blue boy. He is sad to have been delisted but very glad to have been given another chance. Really feel for him and hope its not the end for him!!!!!

keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6516

teknodeejay wrote:

I'm not saying he is, or that he isn't, but Bryce Gibbs jibbed at two contested ball situations yesterday.

Not suprising. Soft as warm butter

keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6516

missnaut wrote:

Navy Blue Horse wrote:

FFS people, we are 5-1 (after a 0-5 start :razz:

), healthy percentage, a third of our team still to come back. Look on the bright side.

But who's going to kick our goals?

:razz:

Our biggest problem is no big mother in the forward 50 who can clunk marks.
Just hope Casboult or Mitchell can come up this year which is unlikely.
Had very little interest in yesterdays game.
Should have rested a few more players

Stamos · **Joined:** Mon May 31, 2010 10:07 pm **Posts:** 1984

Coaches' Votes
Carlton vs Greater Western Sydney

7 Hampson (Carl)
5 Kennedy (GWS)
4 Bower (Carl)
4 Greene (GWS)
3 McDonald (GWS)
3 Robinson (Carl)
2 Jamison (Carl)
1 Mohr (GWS)
1 Power (GWS)

So Sheedy gave 1 Carlton player votes in an 11 goal loss :donk:

aboynamedsue · **Joined:** Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:09 pm **Posts:** 6047

One of those games I think where you just take the 4 points and move on. Not a lot to be read into the game in terms of either Pros or Cons, IMO.

If you'd offered me before the game a 67 point win + no injuries + we gave a new player a taste of AFL, I would have taken it...

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

Stamos wrote:

Coaches' Votes
Carlton vs Greater Western Sydney

7 Hampson (Carl)
5 Kennedy (GWS)
4 Bower (Carl)
4 Greene (GWS)
3 McDonald (GWS)
3 Robinson (Carl)
2 Jamison (Carl)
1 Mohr (GWS)
1 Power (GWS)

So Sheedy gave 1 Carlton player votes in an 11 goal loss :donk:

killpies · **Posted:** Mon May 07, 2012 7:30 pm

I can't recall an 11 goal win where the winning teams supporters were so pissed off.

That being said it was garbage as a spectacle except the last quarter.

I said at the start to my mate, i hope we win by 10 goals and Setanta snags 6 for GWS. Feel bad for the big guy, but i reckon he will work his way back.

Was interesting to watch one of the frees he got where he obviously ducked and fell into the player in front of him. The crowd let out the faintest of boo's , anyone else it would have been a lot louder but still a lot of love in Navy Blue for Setanta.

As long as we keep winning i don't care how ugly it is.

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

I haven't even watched it yet, that's how important a result it was for me.

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