..was woeful in the middle, was given plenty of opportunity during the first half to stake his claim, and failed miserably i thought.. ..we got killed in the center, and he was getting enough taps but they were crapola.. ..he's meant to be flying this pre-season, so unless that knock on the knee has stuffed him up [again], if he's fit he's just a training track hero.. ..his one trick is supposedly being a top-line tap-ruckman, but he wasn't.. ..is taller and more athletic than sauce, but got shown up by him good and proper..

..simply put, looked much better when Krooz was rucking..

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I only watch the game in patches. Was he winning the hits but they were being sharked by Crows?
We will never know if that is his fault or whether the mids for the blues were not doing as they should or were just beaten by a better clearance unit with better tactics. Our coaches will know where the problem was and look into it. This will decide his worth to the team.

His one dimensional-ness is his downfall. We need to get better value from his one trick for him to be worth a spot.

Given you called him 'Wanknock' on the previous page, it's hard to take your opinion seriously. If you can't see what he did to Sam Jacobs in that 2nd quarter, my guess is you either know nothing about football or Warnock has done something to you and/or a family member. Or both.

..^^^..

..he stole my bike as a kid..

....i can see what he did vs sauce in the 2nd Q sure, but i also saw what sauce did to him for the rest of their time against eachother.. ..and the thing is, 'on paper' Knockers should be all over Jacobs.. ..is more athletic, has faster reaction time, is taller, is supposedly a top-line tap to advantage ruck.. ..and yet, was easily shown up by sauce which is a good ruckman yes, but isn't/shouldn't be better than Knockers..

..or do you believe that Knockers brief period of dominance shows more, than his longer period of crappiness..?..

..and c'mon docness, surely me calling him wanknock is evidence of supreme wit, and you ought to be holding yer ribs in from all the laughter..

..ultimately, over his time with us, for all his supposed great tap work, he's only ever really turned it on in a few games.. ..knockers is to our rucks, what waite is to our fwds.. ..all potential, and little consistent greatness produced..

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..i mentioned elsewhere that it could have been compounded by us having judd and gibbs not playing, and murphy certainly had an off night.. ..but Knockers also seems to tap the ball down in front, more than he taps to the side/behind.. ..also, from what i've seen he's not much of an ambidextrous type ruck, he may get his hand to a lot of ball, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of variety/versatility to his actual taps.. ..simply put, he's far too predictable, and if our mids are getting smashed in the middle, he ought to be able to break that with his ability to get first hands on the ball.. ..but he seldom does it.. ..and he hardly ever smashes the ball clear of a pack to break the opposition clearance dominance..

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hmm, I posted this in the wrong thread.

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I think you're being a tad harsh on the big fella BKB.

If Kreuzer and Hampson were injured as they have been in times of need in 2011 and 2012 Warnock was our saviour in the ruck...nearly got us into a prelim in 2011.

I don't think he did badly at all on Saturday night. In fact I was pleased with all 3 ruckmen on Saturday night. IMO they all did better that Jacobs. Its just that Hammer and Krooze stood out more than Warnock because they did more than him.

So glad we have 3 quality ruckmen. They are all quality, and we're lucky to have them on our list.

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Last year as commentator MM went on about how important getting a secondary bounce was for the collingwood gameplan the years before.

I wonder if this will be a factor in deciding our rucks.

..a bit harsh sure, but deservedly so i reckon.. ..lookit, in 2011 early on he was traveling nicely [not amazingly mind, but nicely], and then he got injured for a large'ish chunk of the middle season.. ..and it's debateable that his best games [finals of that season] were as good as krooz's 2nd game back vs swans in that year.. ..he did well vs the wce ruck combo out west, but they weren't 100%, but i will say that he does play his best footy in finals.. ..last season though he wasn't much chop at all, lets be honest.. ..injury riddled for the majority of the year, which is far more common than him being injury free..

..my knocks on him, are that for all his talked up height, tapwork and athleticisdm, he doesn't dominate nearly enough ruck contests, and since he's very much a tap ruckman and so far little more [aside from the odd glimpse], it's one trick isn't nearly good enough..

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I must say I find Warnock the most frustrating player to watch. Would continue to play all three ruckmen in the grand final and drop the number to two thereafter. Warnock has fine tap work, his disposal is above average for a tall guy, pretty accurate in front of goals and very clean hands below his knees. Has it all in my eyes but delivers very little. He is not prepared to put his body on the line.

Just not prepared to put his body on the line in marking contests. Has good hands but seldom do you see him take a mark. For a tall ruckman with a good pair of hands its unforgivable. Time after time I have seen him arrive late at a marking contest which leads me to believe he does not want to get crunched.

Whilst supporters gave it to Hampson last year for fumbling his marksafter doing all the hard work to get his hand on the pill they tend to overlook the fact he at least has a red hot go. Warnock can't drop them if he doesnt even make it to the contest. I can't see Warnock taking the next step, unless he is called up on his bludging.

Hampson may not be the smartest footballer to transition into our great game but at least you would have seen over the past year some substantial improvement in his rucking and now contested marking. If my memory serves me correct he had the highest taps to advantage of the three at one stage. His kicking last year had improved in front of goal but it still is a work in progress. I can't help but be impressed against Adelaide when he came from behind making a lung to spoil an Adelaide mark allowing us to rebound after what should have been a simple mark to them. As his confidence grows I expect Hampson to figure prominently in our side. Hampson has plenty of upside but we must be patient with his progress. IMO, he is also a better forward option than Kreuzer. A Levi Hampson forward combo may be our best option at the moment.

Conundrum

and he missed "THAT" goal.

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