jim wrote:
Adam Chatfield wrote:
deano35 wrote:
This is TOTALLY different to Pagan and Malthouse TOTALLY.
Clarkson is the best coach of the modern era if not ever.
He is clearly still at the top of his game and as sharp as any.
If anyone else was coaching Hawthorn they wouldn't have won a game , they are worse then North.
Get Clarkson coz David is slowly killing our club and our kids.
Pagan and Madhouse were washed up and had other agenda's.
Pagan - shit sandwich he was given, not sure who’d have done well in same situation. Hindsight we’d been better holding our nerve and keeping Brittain.
Malthouse - Diabolical, came into a still relatively talented list which he blew up with no compensation for most of the good players we let go. Hindsight we’d have been better to stick with Ratten.
Now currently, list is healthier longer term looking and club more stable than either 2002 or 2012, so getting an established coach in they should have more to build with.
If we get Clarko I’d back him in, but prefer with stick with Teague.
No good rationalising. Unless the culture changes the coach is dead man walking from the start. Initial sugar hit then by the 3rd year the players are doing the same thing. With Malthouse it was the 3rd year where we stopped working, 3rd year with Bolton, and 3rd year again. Only thing is the win/loss ratio has been much better under Teague than those other two. sort the root of the problem otherwise we just embarrass another coach.
We put out the same effort in 2012 against a depleted Gold Coast when a win would get us into the 8. Cost Ratten his job, something we have regretted ever since. Ratten had the ability to get something out of sides with shit cultures, 3 finals at Carlton, one at St.Kilda, but it gets them in the end.
How was Hawthorn's culture prior to Clarkson???
How was Richmond's culture prior to Hardwick????
CULTURE is setup and is keeped Accountable by the head COACH.
David Teague has had numerous chances in 2 years to change our CULTURE but is too nice and very friendly coz that's the culture Teague has stamped on this footy club.
He's had 2 years to fix these 5 goal run ons.
He's had 2 years to fix this deplorable defensive structure.
Players laughing after they've had 4, 5 ,6 goals kicked on them.
Senior players recalled after long lay off's with no form or fitness.
Talented kids working there arse off into form yet overlooked time and time again.
Playing SENIOR players injured ahead of fully fit kids.
Ask yourself would Ckarkson accept what happened during our rd2 game ????
Do you think Clarkson would accept what happened today coz I can put my house on the fact that not 1 senior player will be dropped but I bet they'll hang Williamson, Cottrell, Owies or probably SPS
Hawks were rubbish for clarkos first 2 years, and had a lot more heavy losses than we’ve experienced under Teague.
I don’t think Teague is the messiah but I don’t think Clarko or any coach is. Regardless of which, it takes time.