Blue Vain wrote:
jamespul65 wrote:
plowman has been fantastic for us (surreyblue),in which games has ever ever walked off with a dominating performance ,he is slow,turn the ball over ,never taken a mark to help weits or jones(chop out) .someone else once mentioned he is a selfish defender .This is my view only after watching plow over the years i believe not good enough.
Highest disposal efficiency of any Carlton player this year (82.03)
3rd for one percenters. 5th for intercepts.
Not bad for a selfish player who turns the ball over.
Look at his record against the best small forwards.
Charlie Cameron V Carlton. 7 goals in 6 games
Tom Papley V Carlton. 7 goals in 6 games
I use to be a huge fan of Plowman till this year when I took notice of what other posters had to say and saw it with my own eyes.
He is the best we have.
I know the good things he does and glad you remind everyone, but there's a flipside you have never entertained BV, even when asked for your opinion when he's played badly
Sorry to put it this way, but you defense of Plowman is akin to keoghs attack on SOS and the Board; one sided and nothing else.
Has he failed against small forwards?
Has he failed against players his size?
Has he failed against bigger opponents?
Has he failed to apply defensive pressure when it was his turn?
He is not as perfect as you make out.
There's a reason why he went in so hard against O'Meara last game. It may have something to do with his lack of pressure, questionable commitment to a contest and ball watching which have been shown in the media.
Plowman's shortfalls have been noticed and highlighted by the media this year; a couple of times. Never happened before. He's been noticed not just by me and other posters.
He has been a top 10 in the club BnF of a struggling team who in one year only won 2 games. Maybe he has peaked? Questions should be asked and replacement for him one day will need to be found.
Fact today his position is not one we can replace from our existing players (unless Marchbank finally takes the field), and there's other positions in our team that need addressing before the backline, who have done well as a group (we are 12th on the ladder), but geez imo from what I've seen this year, we could do with some improvement on Plowman and Jones in the next couple of years when we are playing for a flag.
I was rapt to hear Eddie Bett's praise of Plowman last night on 360. Eddie said Plowman is number one in the club for leaving his man to help a team mate or 3rd man in a contest to 'kill' the ball. He does have good qualities, but he also is far from perfect.
He turns 27 this year. I hope his best is ahead of him.