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 Post subject: Lance got shafted.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:13 pm 
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The legacy of featuring prominently on the umpires interpretations DVD for shepherding last season resulted in Lance being penalised for the most ludicrous free kick I've seen in ages. Richo leaps 15 minutes before the ball arrives and because Lance did a quick check to see where his opponent was he gets done.

The umpires are pathetic.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:24 pm 
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He is unfairly sacrificed week in week out by the umpires. They give numerous unwarranted frees against him and rarely give he free kicks to him that are obvious to everyone with at least one eye, or he earned.

He's a champion. Never complains. Gets on with the job. He's the AFL's Mr Football (when his kicking for goal is on song).

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:38 pm 
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http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-carlton-blues--lance-whitnall
9 frees for and 4 against, including last night where he scored 0 - 1.

Averaging 1.8 frees a game due to a 5 - 2 game against Freo.

Currently equal third in the league for frees for as per http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_rankings?year=2006&rt=LT&st=FF.

Usually updated by an hour or so after each game. Not even on the page for frees against, Jarrad Waite our 'best' with 5, putting him equal 44th with about 60 players.

I do understand what you're saying though, he gets a rough rub, possibly based on that DVD, but by no means is he being crucified.


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 Post subject: Re: Lance got shafted.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:16 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
The legacy of featuring prominently on the umpires interpretations DVD for shepherding last season resulted in Lance being penalised for the most ludicrous free kick I've seen in ages. Richo leaps 15 minutes before the ball arrives and because Lance did a quick check to see where his opponent was he gets done.

The umpires are pathetic.


The Marc Murphy one was worse

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They hate him, becuase he is the only player in the entire Competition that knows how to bend the system, and the rules in his advantage....


if we were to take the text book and Analyse every free kick was paid against him, very few would stand correct....


he has a Brain of a Genius... he knows whats right and whats wrong, as far as what to do and when.... sadly though, his moves confuses the empires and doesnt give them enough time to think , was he right or Wrong? so they go for their instincts and give free kicks against him...


Denis Pagan, YOU seriously need to find someone who can play in defence..... Your Excuses are lame and we are sick of it.....


had Richo kicked 10 goals, we would have had a real chance of winning, at least knowing that Lance could have kicked those easy goals, Waite and others missed .....


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Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

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Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

He's always been a bit of a dodgy kick for goal, you'd back him from 0 - 35 but he kicks it pretty flat from further out. Plus he's been in the defensive half and kicking for goal is a lot different to field kicking.

But we don't believe in excuses on here do we... :P


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wasn't blaming Lance just correcting the misguided belief that where Waite and Co were missing Lance would not. he did.

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jimmae wrote:
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Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

He's always been a bit of a dodgy kick for goal, you'd back him from 0 - 35 but he kicks it pretty flat from further out. Plus he's been in the defensive half and kicking for goal is a lot different to field kicking.

But we don't believe in excuses on here do we... :P


You were only 14 in 1999 maybe your memory aint what it used to be. :wink:

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AGRO wrote:
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Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

He's always been a bit of a dodgy kick for goal, you'd back him from 0 - 35 but he kicks it pretty flat from further out. Plus he's been in the defensive half and kicking for goal is a lot different to field kicking.

But we don't believe in excuses on here do we... :P


You were only 14 in 1999 maybe your memory aint what it used to be. :wink:

I remember 99, I attended about 13 or 14 games that season and I was at the GF, I was shaking due to fever in front of the stereo at home for the prelim, and I remember Lance's kicking style when the distance troubled him. The trajectory of the ball made it look like the footy had been fired out of a sling shot.


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dannyboy wrote:
Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

Just before Lance went onto Richo he kicked one that would have gone through the goals had Waitey provided a shepherd rather than marking the ball in the goal mouth. Make no mistake about it when Lance is in the forward line we look much more threatening.


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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:38 pm 
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Lance shafted the umpire.


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malleefowl wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
Lance kicked 1.3 - 2 were bread and butter for forwards.

Just before Lance went onto Richo he kicked one that would have gone through the goals had Waitey provided a shepherd rather than marking the ball in the goal mouth. Make no mistake about it when Lance is in the forward line we look much more threatening.


Simply because our ball carriers were looking for someone other than Fevola on the lead.

Having two people leading to different parts of the arc means the opposition needs two spare players to drop in front.

But Lance's kicking for goal has always been pretty unpredictable.


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Wojee he did the same thing against the Swans and won the free. 2 minutes after the one where it was paid against him, Scotland also tried the 'Whitnall Flap' and won the free.

It's just umpire inconsistency, not a wWhitnall thing. If he looked up he would have won the free but lost his head.


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mallee suggest yoiu watch against that goal of ;lance's/Waite's you're referring to. Lance got that goal because he was moving to the backline (took the ball on the wing, ducked around and sped towards goal). If he had have stayed at CHf it would have been another rebounding ball back to the Tiger's forwardline. :wink:

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dannyboy wrote:
mallee suggest yoiu watch against that goal of ;lance's/Waite's you're referring to. Lance got that goal because he was moving to the backline (took the ball on the wing, ducked around and sped towards goal). If he had have stayed at CHf it would have been another rebounding ball back to the Tiger's forwardline. :wink:

Are you saying that Lance always stays motionless in the forward line? :shock: I was there. I know he took it on the wing, but he is often up there. Whether he was on his way to the backline is immaterial. Players always move around to make position for the ball as required.


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there was a 10 minute patch during the 3rd quarter, where i saw 3 of the worst decisions ever made all paid against us (no exaggeration), with 2 of the free kicks resulting in goals to the tigers. The AFL really needs to have a look at this little period and work out what happened. I was sickened and threw my remote control across the room (I taped the game and watched it later on).

I'm not one to make excuses, but this was really beyond belief.

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I think the email address for umpiring etc is football.operations AT afl DOT com DOT au

Let's make sure lots get sent, but please be sensible about what you write, and use examples, and maybe they'll pay some attention, rather than dismiss the correspondence as rubbish.

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It appears the stats vary from site to site...

http://www.pro-stats.com.au/psw/web/player_profile?pid=697

Here Lance is 14 - 4 in favour :shock:


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as soon as he kicks that goal where does Lance run to? Without any runner etc appraoching?

Bet ya can't guess 8)

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