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St Kilda lost because they have no game plan, none that i could see anyway.


That surprises me a bit Dannyboy, it was called "kick it to Riewoldt"...although if you tuned in after the 3rd term then yes you're right.

I wonder what they'll do next week...."Kick it to Hamil"? I don't think that one will work as well.

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SPF, right on the money. Take Fev out of our forward line and see how we go with the game plan.
Thomas can't coach but that club has so much talent they can still win a premiership with him at the helm. Even Allan Joyce did it back to back at Hawthorn.


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Based on last nights form, I am not so sure I want Goddard at Carlton. But then some of Pagans 'conditioning training' would toughen him up no end.


Thomas. last night, clearly did not apply Pagan Priniciple No 7

Prior Preparation and Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.


Like I said earlier, he needs to get into professional care as soon as possible...note "professional".

No doubt his case is becoming critical but with proper treatment I think he could make a fully recovery. Dr Pagan is THE MAN.

Past patients that have done well from treatment at Dr Pagan's Royal Parade clinc include; Bannister, McGrath and Scotland who came to the clinic with real problems but look at them now. Now you can't tell me that if we can save guys from Essendon* and Collingwood that Stkildaitus can't be fixed.

I point out that even before Dr Pagan's time the clinic was already doing good work, just have a look at Mathew Lappin.

We have the technology - we can rebuild him.

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Goddard looks confused to me.Cant seem to make his mind up whether he is an onballer or key position player.At the moment he is niether your elbow nor your a..hole.Is he soft ? Dont think so ! Just unsure of himself.Would Pagan be good for him ? For sure,but he had his chance and there are a lot of good footballers around who are in front of Brendan.Ball for a start,and definatly DelSanto.Sheedy compares DelSanto to Ian Stewart and i reckon thats a pretty fair comparison.Also love Hazleby and Chad Fletcher.

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In responseto an earlier post saying that St Kilda lost because Riewolt went off injured, I think that this misses the point.

Parkin was saying that a lot of St Kilda players were not putting in good 4 quarter efforts. What he seemed to be implying is that St Kilda wont be a top side that is a genuine premiership threatuntil they get better 4 quarter efforts from more players and not rely so much on stars like Riewolt.

I say he feels that from his coaching experience, if he had that sort of talent at his disposal, he would be getting a better team result than last night from the saints.

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Goddard is the ultimate package, he just needs to be bent into shape by the right coach. His kicking is sublime..... I'd still have him. Pagan would sort him out :wink: Really, Goddard's kick puts him in the Buckley/Dew bracket.



Pity his heart puts him in the shyte scared bracket.


No, I think its more of what Mickstar is saying. He's confused about his role in the team, and he's just floating around a wing, not getting among the action.

I don't think he's soft. I just think he needs more exposure in the kitchen to see what he's got.

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Mick what do you mean by 'had your chance'? in relation to Goddard?

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Mick what do you mean by 'had your chance'? in relation to Goddard?


:roll:

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I think his efforts when the ball is present leave alot to be desired. Perfect example last night where he was out hussled by Corrie in a 1 on 1 and then proceeded not to chase. He has too many moments like this to be an elite footballer. His skills are sublime but I'm not sure he wants it as bad as he needs to sometimes.
I was probably harsh labeling him soft but putting your body on the line requires effort and he's lacking inspiration at the moment.


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danny, Mickstar actually said "he had his chance", I think referring to either Goddard missing out on us in the draft (not his fault) or choosing to stay with the Saints at his last contract renewal (definately his fault! :P )


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If St Kilda have a shit year, they will probably be inclined to make a few changes.

looks to me that maybe Goddard might be a player that might need a change.

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blueman wrote:
If St Kilda have a shit year, they will probably be inclined to make a few changes.

looks to me that maybe Goddard might be a player that might need a change.


Thats the thing though, if they did decide this it would be because there has still been no improvement, yet they would want atleast a first round pick and an early 1 at that for him. Would you trade your top pick possibly a super talented youngster for a highly talented 3 year player with confidence issues. At this stage I'd say no, keep the pick for an unblemished quality kid.


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dannyboy wrote:
St Kilda lost because they have no game plan, none that i could see anyway.


And Cornflakes demonstrated what PLAN B really is.

If Plan A doesn't Work. go to Plan B

Plan B is use Plan A till it works

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SHHH! wrote:
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St Kilda lost because they have no game plan, none that i could see anyway.


And Cornflakes demonstrated what PLAN B really is.

If Plan A doesn't Work. go to Plan B

Plan B is use Plan A till it works



Maybe Rod Butters should go to plan C, call Gary Ayres.


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St Kilda are a bunch of sooks led by king cornflake sooky la la , if they keep playing the way they did last night they are in for a long year.

Nothing shat me more today than fatty thomas on the news sooking about sooky's shoulder and the hard gabba. He should have been sooking about how soft his sooky bunch are, he only wishes they could be as hard as the gabba surface.


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