I'd rather have gotten flogged last night.

We've snatched defeat from the jaws of victory twice in three weeks now. The Adelaide game once again has set the tone.



Was sitting on that side of the ground in the member zone area, and nearly everyone was screaming to not let Pendlebury get free... How can a bay full of supporters can see it but the team can't?

Disappointing presser, he doesn't have to face feral scum supporters at work on Monday...I wanted to see veins bulging and an apology to the fans... yes I'm still mad

People blame individuals in our back half when the game was lost further up the ground. not a great day for those on the ground and those up in the box.

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it does begger some belief that Kennedy is not in our current and best available 22.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Rather than vent with vociferous anger (did enough of that last night), my only contribution is this:

Michael Voss is Craig McRae's bunny

Own it Vossy!!!

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great set up kick just our dumb forwrds were sleeping while the defenders were awake, dumb side

true

out coached, congested our stoppages and voss did nothing
charlie is a forward who plays from behind and wants the easy ball
our smalls think they are talls
our defenders play in front and too far off their opponents
we are too slow and not the most switched on side (a bit coaching would help, I'm not sure what they do in those team meetings)
we are panic merchants, no composure at all
stagnant lazy and a very selfish team
no urgentsy and last but not least unaware of their surroundings

very disappointed in voss and his brains trust, they act like they know what we are doing wrong but they can't even fix something as simple our our forward line with two of the best and dangerous kpf in the comp,
btw harry's kicking probems comes down to the way he holds the ball

Why don't our smalls stay down?

Time and time again everyone flies for the mark and two oppo players just hang back and pick up the spills.

Not trying to single zac Williams out but thaT first goal arguing with the umpires, looked genuinely surprised of the quick play, and there were no team mates to be seen. There is a time and a place for everything and colon have their fair share of tools, but in those dangerous type situations they seem to be able to keep it together and they tend to ice the clutch plays.

I am assuming from zac thouy 3 goals last week something similar happened

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Last week was unacceptable. Statements were made. Standards (re)set. And we dished THAT up.

So many questions. So much concern.

Vossy was extremely agitated on the bench a few times.

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Not overly surprised. As I thought, Mihocek took Weitering away from the contest and we didn't adapt. Why didn't Hamill have a counter strategy?
Not a big name but I thought Cincotta was good after a long lay off.

IMHO we can't structure our team on the stoppage game and expect to be consistent because it relies on one player too much. Last year Cripps has 27+ possessions, we win 9 out of 10 games. He has 26 or less, we win 5 out of 14. Collingwood did what Brisbane did last year, put a bigger bodied mid on Cripps and he struggles to have the desired impact. We need more speed and adaptability around the contest. Collingwood stood outside us around the contest and knocked it into space. (Richmond 2019) and they were off. If we won it, they closed in and shut us down. They were more disciplined and went in with a better plan.
Defensive 50 stoppages were a huge issue for us. Too many easy goals. The coaches have a lot of work to do in that regard.

It will be interesting to see what the coaches come up with for next week. We started the season far more system based. We've regressed to previous years football where we're relying on 3 or 4 stars to win us games. Selfish, dumb decisions being made again where players think they'll do it all themselves. That doesn't win premierships.

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amazingly jon brown said on fox after the game we are now the bottom or next bottom team in the comp in allowing scoring from stoppage this season.

so for all the bluster about stoppages, we're quite bad.

Our pressure ratings are right down. 145 during the 2nd qtr, must be record low. Compare that to a record 240 during the 3rd qtr against GWS. The latter is an extreme admittedly that a side won't keep up, but it gives you an idea. Don't have that and rubbish footy follows. Need to be a consistent 180s with bursts in the 200s. We are losing nothing when we do that. We are not working hard enough for long enough.

Will help when the gun players return. We have a heap out, and were 4 players short too with Young, Fantasia, Durdin and Williams out there. Fantasia and Durdin 12 touches, no tackles and a combined 0.1. After all that it was just a goal.

pittonet at times looks like prime #44 out there. but his workrate & quality really drops off after the 1st qtr.

tdk ... yes he played great at giants and nabbed 3 goals. but other than that, for some reason his around the ground game and effectiveness hasn't been there since pittonet came back into the team

since pittonet's inclusion, defensively by a number of metrics we've been bottom 4 in the afl.

given the best ruck in the comp (gawn) couldn't co exist with another ruck, and the dees system couldn't incorporate another ruck.

(these are all factual, and not opinion. yeah? we can agree on that? )

so, i wonder what our coaching staff are thinking, and where they're at about our noticeable onfield decline (barring the outlier - gws game) and i wonder what they're proposing to do about it.


like blue vain said, this stoppage and clearance gameplan is too tactically reliant on individual, rather then team - and imo is too easily countered and neutered. and collingwood showed last night team first structures (no matter how many crucial outs you have) - with individual cameo brilliance within it (daicos) is what wins big games, finals and ultimately grand finals.

bcos if we serve the last 3 weeks up the next two games we will be dismantled, & top 4 is well and truly over. and really, it has the makings of derailing the season, if players lose belief and confidence.

Melbourne is the team you want to play 2 rucks against.
Need to make Lever accountable and we’ll need Pitto’s body against Gawn.

Having said this, I now have no doubt will omit one.

You have 8 to 10 players AFL ready sitting on the sidelines trying to get a game the pressure ratings goes up.
When you constantly have injury list with 10 to 12 players on it the pressure to keep your spot isn't there.
Seriously how Russell has kept his job is beyond me.
Richmond have an injury crisis with 12 players out. That's our injury list going into every game for the past 5 years.
Collingwood were depleted missing Degoey and Mitchell
Geelong were struck down missing Stewart
West Coast finished last because they had injuries last week.

How hard can it be to get a group of 20 to 30 year olds who have spent since the age of 6 at the top end of sporting abilities to run 10 to 12 ks in nearly 2 hours with constantly having rests and breaks.
It's not rocket science keeping these guys fit and available. Other clubs seem to be able to do it. Sure they may have patches where they have a few injuries but not 10 to 12 every week.

We have a golden opportunity for success this bloke who is in charge of getting our blokes ready to play is failing us badly.

Cook grow some balls and march him out the door.

Motlop best preseason every supposedly the top trainer . Stubs his toe he has now been sidelined for 12 weeks. The kid is 20.
Last year missing for calf injuries.
How the @#$%&! does that happen


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Russell seems to be good at rehabilitating players with major, career threatening injuries (Curnow, Walsh) and getting blokes fit to run huge distances, but clueless with recurrent soft tissue injuries. Can we cut his brain in half and splice it with that of a hamstring specialist?

once again for many F>>>>>k years i have been saying the same thing 1 our players are to SLOW and all have same 1 gear except for walsh 2 our game plan there is no run always kicking to a contest ,but winning all those close games was like putting a bandage on the wound. The good news is coaches now have the rest of year to FIX this problems. why would we recruit E hollands when is just one pace player ,we have many of those types

In defence of McKay's last quarter mis-kick:

He rushed it. He didn't need to, but we'd had success with the quick kick deep forward on two occasions previously. He swung around and it came slightly off the side of the boot, so instead of going 15 meters out from goal - giving TDK a chance to run at the footy - it went 20 meters out from goal where the Magies defenders had gathered. If McKay had kicked it deeper - to where TDK was standing, shoulder-to-shoulder with his defender, it would have been spoiled over the line and the Magpies would have had posession. If he'd taken longer, then the four Magpies defenders who raffled the mark off his kick would have clogged up the 50 entirely. Now, if he had his time again I'm sure he would take a breath, and try and find a Carlton player coming from the fat side. But 99% of our players were either right near him, or along the wing behind him, because we relentlesslty set up down the wing all through the last quarter.

This play was a microcosm of our match - the Pies outworked us. They dropped back, ran harder and faster than we did and we were still laboring, trying to execute the same plan again and again.

It's funny how supporters are quick to point out a Harry error but over look the 30 or so dumb decisions Curnow makes a game.

If he kicked to the pocket or top of the square he was kicking to an out number.
Carlton had 4 on 2 to where he kicked it but he miss hit it and pinpointed it to one of the 2.



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