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Author: | dannyboy [ Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Tilling the field |
So the farmer has hung up his boots and I just wanted to say thanks. It was a tough field that you worked on, plenty of harsh conditions and for many years one which struggled to bear any fruit but you, like all farmers, wiped your brow, shrugged your shoulders and got back to work, day after day, year after year, playing on opponents too tall, too small, too fast...yet you just accepted the assignment, wiped old mud off your boots and went again and again. It must be an easy gig when the conditions are right, surrounded by players, coaches and supporters on the wave of winning games, sadly that was not your lot, you worked through the lean years, the years of drought when wins were as hard to come by as water in the desert...many could have been broken by the environment, you just kept on working, supporting others, taking up the challenges working over summer for the winter, through the winter for the next year and so on. From what I've heard you are a top bloke, supportive, salt of the earth type, so thank you Lachie, thank you for the games, for wearing the jumper, for working through the lean years to help us get to this point where we think now we may have a harvest. All of us want to wear this famous old jumper - you did! All of us dreamt of playing this game at the highest level - you did! You took the swirling mists of childhood ambition and carved out a career, you played this game, took the knocks, took the highs and lows, beat opponents, was beaten by opponents, won some, lost many and kept, working, supporting, playing. Thank you Lachie, thank you for the effort, the games played, the training sessions endured, the boos, everything. I know it was never about the money, it as about honouring that little boy who held the oval ball, inhaled the leather and dreamt such a dream that life found its path and set you on your way. Thank you for the games, the smiles, the bumps, the aches and pains, the work; the work that you and so many players have put in that have slowly, like the barren fields turned fertile, helped turn this club around. When Carlton players hold that cup aloft many will have forgotten your role in the tough years preparing for the feast, but know this Lachie, all Carlton players, all of them, have some sort of connection to those cups. Thanks you and enjoy putting your feet up. |
Author: | Mickstar [ Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Geez Danny , thats fantastic . Thats sorta what i was thinkin' but couldnt come up with the words . Beautifully put and we all agree 100 % . |
Author: | keogh [ Thu Sep 28, 2023 10:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
dannyboy wrote: So the farmer has hung up his boots and I just wanted to say thanks. It was a tough field that you worked on, plenty of harsh conditions and for many years one which struggled to bear any fruit but you, like all farmers, wiped your brow, shrugged your shoulders and got back to work, day after day, year after year, playing on opponents too tall, too small, too fast...yet you just accepted the assignment, wiped old mud off your boots and went again and again. It must be an easy gig when the conditions are right, surrounded by players, coaches and supporters on the wave of winning games, sadly that was not your lot, you worked through the lean years, the years of drought when wins were as hard to come by as water in the desert...many could have been broken by the environment, you just kept on working, supporting others, taking up the challenges working over summer for the winter, through the winter for the next year and so on. From what I've heard you are a top bloke, supportive, salt of the earth type, so thank you Lachie, thank you for the games, for wearing the jumper, for working through the lean years to help us get to this point where we think now we may have a harvest. All of us want to wear this famous old jumper - you did! All of us dreamt of playing this game at the highest level - you did! You took the swirling mists of childhood ambition and carved out a career, you played this game, took the knocks, took the highs and lows, beat opponents, was beaten by opponents, won some, lost many and kept, working, supporting, playing. Thank you Lachie, thank you for the effort, the games played, the training sessions endured, the boos, everything. I know it was never about the money, it as about honouring that little boy who held the oval ball, inhaled the leather and dreamt such a dream that life found its path and set you on your way. Thank you for the games, the smiles, the bumps, the aches and pains, the work; the work that you and so many players have put in that have slowly, like the barren fields turned fertile, helped turn this club around. When Carlton players hold that cup aloft many will have forgotten your role in the tough years preparing for the feast, but know this Lachie, all Carlton players, all of them, have some sort of connection to those cups. Thanks you and enjoy putting your feet up. I have a tear in my eye By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble Loyalty is only reciprocated so far Diabolical decision maker Good VFL player at best Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend. |
Author: | london blue [ Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Beautifully done DannyB You’ve captured it and it’s all that needs to said. Time to acknowledge and thank him. |
Author: | Fenwick Snap [ Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:09 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Well said, db. Plow rarely gets credit for taking on the crappy jobs but often gets slagged off for carrying them out to imperfection. Sometimes he had a day out on quality oppo, often not, but he wasn't alone in that regard in an often barren period. A great battler who'll probably kill it at the lower levels. |
Author: | BlueJean [ Fri Sep 29, 2023 3:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
dannyboy wrote: So the farmer has hung up his boots and I just wanted to say thanks. It was a tough field that you worked on, plenty of harsh conditions and for many years one which struggled to bear any fruit but you, like all farmers, wiped your brow, shrugged your shoulders and got back to work, day after day, year after year, playing on opponents too tall, too small, too fast...yet you just accepted the assignment, wiped old mud off your boots and went again and again. It must be an easy gig when the conditions are right, surrounded by players, coaches and supporters on the wave of winning games, sadly that was not your lot, you worked through the lean years, the years of drought when wins were as hard to come by as water in the desert...many could have been broken by the environment, you just kept on working, supporting others, taking up the challenges working over summer for the winter, through the winter for the next year and so on. From what I've heard you are a top bloke, supportive, salt of the earth type, so thank you Lachie, thank you for the games, for wearing the jumper, for working through the lean years to help us get to this point where we think now we may have a harvest. All of us want to wear this famous old jumper - you did! All of us dreamt of playing this game at the highest level - you did! You took the swirling mists of childhood ambition and carved out a career, you played this game, took the knocks, took the highs and lows, beat opponents, was beaten by opponents, won some, lost many and kept, working, supporting, playing. Thank you Lachie, thank you for the effort, the games played, the training sessions endured, the boos, everything. I know it was never about the money, it as about honouring that little boy who held the oval ball, inhaled the leather and dreamt such a dream that life found its path and set you on your way. Thank you for the games, the smiles, the bumps, the aches and pains, the work; the work that you and so many players have put in that have slowly, like the barren fields turned fertile, helped turn this club around. When Carlton players hold that cup aloft many will have forgotten your role in the tough years preparing for the feast, but know this Lachie, all Carlton players, all of them, have some sort of connection to those cups. Thanks you and enjoy putting your feet up. You’re way too kind. Mediocrity and Carlton should not be in the same sentence. |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:18 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
keogh wrote: I have a tear in my eye By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble Loyalty is only reciprocated so far Diabolical decision maker Good VFL player at best Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend. Keogh what the heck goes on in your brain. Danny has posted something he felt the need to do. TC is an opinion forum and that was Danny's heartfelt Opinion. I get that you or anyone is entitled to an opinion, but in this instance why would you need to post something. Just let it go. What did you hope to achieve? But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble What a sad thing to say, after the bloke announces his retirement. He gave his all without complaint or a backwards step. How would your folks feel, if on the day you retired from teaching, a parent who had never met you said. "If someone like Keogh was allowed to teach here, best you find another school to send your child." Get real fella. Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | keogh [ Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: I have a tear in my eye By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble Loyalty is only reciprocated so far Diabolical decision maker Good VFL player at best Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend. Keogh what the heck goes on in your brain. Danny has posted something he felt the need to do. TC is an opinion forum and that was Danny's heartfelt Opinion. I get that you or anyone is entitled to an opinion, but in this instance why would you need to post something. Just let it go. What did you hope to achieve? But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble What a sad thing to say, after the bloke announces his retirement. He gave his all without complaint or a backwards step. How would your folks feel, if on the day you retired from teaching, a parent who had never met you said. "If someone like Keogh was allowed to teach here, best you find another school to send your child." Get real fella. Regards Cazzesman You select what I write Read everything I wrote Plowman by all accounts is a good bloke He played at the highest level Good on him He had a go Good on him But he was an average footballer not good enough for AFL To play 145 games shows how bad we were And it’s testimony to some of the most bizarre trades and picks from SOS A list manager who picked Plowman twice Going to write about Lochie O’Brien A footballer you bagged often who got the chop today I don’t get too choked up on things like this these days Cazzeman When your times up it’s up It’s a part of life |
Author: | Fenwick Snap [ Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
I'm with Cazzesman, Keogh. So Plow wasn't Doull. He gave it a crack and he deserves a little respect on retirement. And for all his deficiencies, his time at the club means something to some of us, including one who decided to post a tribute. Here and now is not the time to be rehashing negative stuff that's been done to death in post-match threads. Wrong room. |
Author: | dannyboy [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!" " |
Author: | sinbagger [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:34 am ] |
Post subject: | Tilling the field |
keogh wrote: Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: I have a tear in my eye By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble Loyalty is only reciprocated so far Diabolical decision maker Good VFL player at best Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend. Keogh what the heck goes on in your brain. Danny has posted something he felt the need to do. TC is an opinion forum and that was Danny's heartfelt Opinion. I get that you or anyone is entitled to an opinion, but in this instance why would you need to post something. Just let it go. What did you hope to achieve? But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble What a sad thing to say, after the bloke announces his retirement. He gave his all without complaint or a backwards step. How would your folks feel, if on the day you retired from teaching, a parent who had never met you said. "If someone like Keogh was allowed to teach here, best you find another school to send your child." Get real fella. Regards Cazzesman You select what I write Read everything I wrote Plowman by all accounts is a good bloke He played at the highest level Good on him He had a go Good on him But he was an average footballer not good enough for AFL To play 145 games shows how bad we were And it’s testimony to some of the most bizarre trades and picks from SOS A list manager who picked Plowman twice Going to write about Lochie O’Brien A footballer you bagged often who got the chop today I don’t get too choked up on things like this these days Cazzeman When your times up it’s up It’s a part of life Keogh, your post is full of contradictions, that’s what you’re being called out on. If you insist on saying things like “he was not good enough for AFL”, alongside “he played 145 games….at the highest level”, you just don’t make any sense. |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
dannyboy wrote: I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!" " Very true Dannyboy but if posters went back over all the match day threads when Plowman played most of the comments would be of a negative nature So he played AFL What about someone who does a brilliant sculpture then dies an unexpected death Probably sell for millions more which is par for the course but in a strange way bizarre Jimi Hendrix said it best Once your dead you really have made it I wonder if Hendrix lived would he feel the same way There is a very good chance you get less sentimental as you get older And that’s my point. |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
sinbagger wrote: keogh wrote: Cazzesman wrote: keogh wrote: I have a tear in my eye By all accounts a decent bloke which is far more important than being a decent footballer or coach or whatever But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble Loyalty is only reciprocated so far Diabolical decision maker Good VFL player at best Had a crack but played 145 games because we were ordinary But let’s hope if he wants to play on somewhere he does what Michael Gibbons did on The Murray last weekend. Keogh what the heck goes on in your brain. Danny has posted something he felt the need to do. TC is an opinion forum and that was Danny's heartfelt Opinion. I get that you or anyone is entitled to an opinion, but in this instance why would you need to post something. Just let it go. What did you hope to achieve? But if someone like Plowman gets a game your team is in trouble What a sad thing to say, after the bloke announces his retirement. He gave his all without complaint or a backwards step. How would your folks feel, if on the day you retired from teaching, a parent who had never met you said. "If someone like Keogh was allowed to teach here, best you find another school to send your child." Get real fella. Regards Cazzesman You select what I write Read everything I wrote Plowman by all accounts is a good bloke He played at the highest level Good on him He had a go Good on him But he was an average footballer not good enough for AFL To play 145 games shows how bad we were And it’s testimony to some of the most bizarre trades and picks from SOS A list manager who picked Plowman twice Going to write about Lochie O’Brien A footballer you bagged often who got the chop today I don’t get too choked up on things like this these days Cazzeman When your times up it’s up It’s a part of life Keogh, your post is full of contradictions, that’s what you’re being called out on. If you insist on saying things like “he was not good enough for AFL”, alongside “he played 145 games….at the highest level”, you just don’t make any sense. He played 145 games because we were so bad Due to SOSs recruiting We also had virtually no lockdown third defender Plowman was it The trade was interesting Phillips Lamb Plowman and Sumner and pick 8 which became Harry McKay for picks How did the three other GWS boys go with us As soon as the team improved Plowman became a fringe player But he had a crack and let’s hope he produces a couple of good little Plowmans who we can get as Father/Son recruits. Unlike Brad Fisher |
Author: | london blue [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
keogh wrote: dannyboy wrote: I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!" " Very true Dannyboy but if posters went back over all the match day threads when Plowman played most of the comments would be of a negative nature So he played AFL What about someone who does a brilliant sculpture then dies an unexpected death Probably sell for millions more which is par for the course but in a strange way bizarre Jimi Hendrix said it best Once your dead you really have made it I wonder if Hendrix lived would he feel the same way There is a very good chance you get less sentimental as you get older And that’s my point. So respect then Keogh If Jimi Hendrix got it right how can any of us, including your good self sit way up high and need to point out someone’s flaws on retirement. Your good self, like me haven’t made it yet |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
keogh wrote: But he had a crack and let’s hope he produces a couple of good little Plowmans who we can get as Father/Son recruits. Unlike Brad Fisher See, this is where you simply can't help yourself. Over and over you do it. You just lob the unnecessary hand grenade into the crowd. Why bring up Brad Fisher. WTF has he got to do with anything. Are you blaming him for not producing a son. Next you will blame Sticks for having 3 daughters. If you say something positive, you don't always have to follow it up with something negative. Damn you are a strange cat. Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Actually all supporters are strange Cazz Including your good self The abit about Fisher is called sarcasm The lowest form of humour and the best All around the walls of sporting clubs they have slogans that preach loyalty Really when you dig deep enough it’s a load of shit If someone becomes better than you the loyalty goes out the window Which is fair enough I don’t know if you have heard of George Carlin who is my favorite comedian George’s last special for HBO was entitled It’s bullshit and it’s bad for ya Should watch it Funny as all shit And when a player is forced to retire Is delisted or whatever the reason given for his departure it’s the same old bullshit He has been a great servant A great team man We would like to thank him for our efforts It’s a bit like the end of a gambling add Gamble responsibly Do people really give a shit Good on Plowman for playing as long as he did I doubt he would have lasted 2 seasons at a successful club Hope he has made good coin to set himself up which is so much harder now than when we were 29 |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
london blue wrote: keogh wrote: dannyboy wrote: I think many people forget people are just people doing the best they can with the limitations they have and the dreams that drive them - Lachie played for Carlton - I'd be happy with that. Sure beats belting out stingy thoughts on a computer - so yes, well done to Lachie, regardless of what some think he played the game at the highest level- and as they say in the song (kind of) "they can't take that away from him!" " Very true Dannyboy but if posters went back over all the match day threads when Plowman played most of the comments would be of a negative nature So he played AFL What about someone who does a brilliant sculpture then dies an unexpected death Probably sell for millions more which is par for the course but in a strange way bizarre Jimi Hendrix said it best Once your dead you really have made it I wonder if Hendrix lived would he feel the same way There is a very good chance you get less sentimental as you get older And that’s my point. So respect then Keogh If Jimi Hendrix got it right how can any of us, including your good self sit way up high and need to point out someone’s flaws on retirement. Your good self, like me haven’t made it yet When I was 25 I ran a marathon under 3 hours Always wanted to do it and a did it Didn’t expect or want one Pat on the back Don’t think I’m anything special The reality of Plowman’s footy career are there to see The good and the bad I have pointed both out If you think it’s wrong so say something negative about him at this time that’s your view |
Author: | Cazzesman [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Keogh's retirement hobbies are now listed as - 'Cutting through the BS, because it needs to be done.' He enjoys long walks on the beach and........ Going to Funerals and Bagging out the Deceased as the coffin is lowered. Going to Weddings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why Marriage is 'Bad for your Health and will end in Divorce.' Going to Christenings and interrupting the Ceremony to inform everyone why the child will eventually let the family down. After many years of influencing the minds of children, he says it is the least he can do for society. Is it a Bird? Is it a Plane? No, it is 'NO BS MAN'. Carry on 'Mr Chuckles.' Regards Cazzesman |
Author: | keogh [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
Author: | GreatEx [ Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Tilling the field |
When you put it that way, cazz, keogh sounds like a bit of a ledge |
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