so who would you drop to make space for Dow? Crippa, Walshie, Cerra, Hewitt or Kennedy?!

like for like would probably mean Cerra. don’t think so. form would mean kennedy or hewitt who have been playing tagging roles (even though Brownie and Richo reckon Carlton don’t tag!) so that’s a role of the dice.


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*roll

(Though maybe a pair of dice would go well at half forward. Double sixes, big H goals).

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agree the present system doesn’t help our small forwards. no lines to run. no open front and centres to attack. durdin is lurking over the back for a lucky break off hands. missing owies. knows how to kick and how to lead up for the “not charlie and not harry” option which requires a good defender or offers Owies a simple shot on goal on no angle.

Motlop made a wise decision not to kick to an unmanned harry yips 15m out in the right pocket and squared up (just!) to Cerra for a layup 20 metres out. didn’t see much else of him on replay . Honey should have kicked a goal in 2nd or 3rd qtr running directly towards goal 35 out but looped a handball over an opposition player to Motlop and the whole thing ended in a low percentage kick from Charlie instead of a gimme goal to Honey. he misses goal kicking in the reserves so maybe that’s why he was “unselfish”.

SOS and smalls we’re great vs geelong but it was charlie and harry did the damage.

Jack Steele on SEN before when Kane asked if they just focussed on Cripps and not worried about others in the middle didn't exactly rebuke the question.

We have no respect.

indeed.

though maybe it’s just another part of our *role* to be the whipping boy for the Mathew Lloyds and Damien Barretts this season?!

Cerra and Walsh deserve respect. Hewitt and Kennedy playing negating roles. big deal, Saints aren’t making this years GF if you ask me. who cares if they don’t respect. if we kicked straight across the ground and moved the ball even half as fast as last season we could have won easy. weird game. improvement on the Crows debacle.

who was it who was jogging slowly, ok walking casually out of the D50 and almost went to bounce not once but twice but hesitated both times and then booted in down the guts to a nothing contest on his last step?! it was comical in the black humour kind of comedy way.

Carlton Age, Experience 2023:
1: 9th Oldest, 11th Games Played
2: 10th Oldest, 12th Games Played
3: 10th Oldest, 12th Games Played
4: 13th Oldest, 13th Games Played
5: 11th Oldest, 12th Games Played
6: 14th Oldest, 16th Games Played

Are we over rating the team

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Syd, confused as to how that reads.

i for one never dismissed it though i think you overstate it at times. i posted several times about a book i pulled off my sisters business books shelf called Confidence. it was an examination of what made some US pro and college sport clubs so successful they’re referred to as “dynasties”, including ones that turned around what you call “loser” cultures to what presumably you would call “winners” cultures. (i hate those jeff kennett kind of terms. terms loved of bullies not people who know how to create good sporting club cultures i would suggest).

the author struggled to find any common threads in methodology or to adjudicate on whether it’s the head coach, the captain(s) and leaders group, the list, the club off the field, the sports psychologists, the tactics or whatever that was the golden ticket. but to turn around a long losing streak obviously requires a perfect storm of many of these things.

time will tell on Voss. first year in him replacing Teague seemed like a no brainer. i hate Roses Lyon and was hugely relieved we didn’t get him. i think he sucks the life out of players over the long run wi th his dower style but he gets results in the near term. he seems to have chilled out a bit with a break from coaching. though was snide about Carlton and definitely had no respect once he’d managed to get the win. didn’t even concede our “domination” in first half which is probably correct. they just absorbed our adrenaline and then as soon as we kicked some east behinds pounced and sapped out last mojo.

my mate was at the game as said Walsh was in red hot form and got crunched in a tackle in the third quater and disappeared after that. without Saad, Doc, Williams, Martin, etc etc, Walsh’s agressive running and link up style of play was probably filling the gap for four players. he’s incredible, two games back after a major back surgery. incredible.

i think we look worse than we are atm because of a boring game style and the absense of a few of our best playmakers. we need to teach others how to do those things. even if they have to use handballs becuase they can’t kick accurately to a lead up 30-50 m down the ground.


these are the “layers” and “dimensions” Voss is talking about. i just hope they materialise before the season is effectively over for us.

Stop Cripps; stop Carlton. Everyone has known that for several years. James Dibble and the late news...

We are putting a young inexperienced team on the park

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Thank you - thought it was me

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Change I want to see, is balancing our midfield. Cripps, Cerra and Walsh start with Kennedy and Dow changing.
Run and carry and taking the handball option, if available. How many times did we kick instead of handball to a runner?
Kicking into our F50 was just diabolical. Want to see our key forwards lead up more and bloody creating space for each other.
Smalls at the fall of the ball ffs.

I’m not asking for much, am I?

It’s you two.
In R6 we are were 14th oldest (5th youngest) to take the field and also the 16th less experienced for the round. See easy.

With a good system the apparent lack of depth would disappear.

Thank you - you’re a genius - makes sense now

Yes and no.
Our mid tier of players is pretty bare TBH and they would usually cover the injuries of the top tier.
We are currently playing a very young list to cover for those injuries instead, which is never good.
Not all teams and their systems can cope with the injuries we have to key personnel.

Yep I agree. This is why it bugs me when you get an injury & people say well he's not even in your best 22 anyway. An injury to the second tier means you're dipping into the third tier later.

Every injury is a setback, & we've had them in spades for years.

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Too many years of rinse and repeat for me.

Looking forward, at least we have Saad, Boyd, Cottrell and Owies coming back this week and the next.
That'll be huge for us.