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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Sidefx wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: jpulice1969 wrote: who ever we draft has to be strong and quick ,no more soft bodies,eg coll player maqueery (spelt wrong) he is quick and hard. Agree. A Dustin Martin clone would take us to the next level  Yes. How about Rowell or A Brayshaw. LDU |
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| Author: | bluehammer [ Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
FarmerBlue wrote: jpulice1969 wrote: who ever we draft has to be strong and quick ,no more soft bodies,eg coll player maqueery (spelt wrong) he is quick and hard. Agree. A Dustin Martin clone would take us to the next level |
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| Author: | bluehammer [ Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
FarmerBlue wrote: Sidefx wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: jpulice1969 wrote: who ever we draft has to be strong and quick ,no more soft bodies,eg coll player maqueery (spelt wrong) he is quick and hard. Agree. A Dustin Martin clone would take us to the next level Yes. How about Rowell or A Brayshaw. LDU |
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| Author: | Paddycripps [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Paddycripps wrote: I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. Is there any good prospects in this years draft? |
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| Author: | Crusader [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
FarmerBlue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. Is there any good prospects in this years draft? There’s maybe half a dozen of them that will go in the first couple of rounds. Then there’s the overagers that would be good for a late/rookie pick. Plenty of options, if we’re desperate. I’d try and get the Big Cohuna, Josh Treacy, out of Freo. If they’re into Jackson AND want to hang on to Lobb… Amiss in the wings… there might be a squeeze. |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Crusader wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. Is there any good prospects in this years draft? There’s maybe half a dozen of them that will go in the first couple of rounds. Then there’s the overagers that would be good for a late/rookie pick. Plenty of options, if we’re desperate. I’d try and get the Big Cohuna, Josh Treacy, out of Freo. If they’re into Jackson AND want to hang on to Lobb… Amiss in the wings… there might be a squeeze. What would he cost and would he come across to sit behind Curnow McKay TDK? If there are some talented talls in the draft I would rather do that. 3 Picks inside Top 30 could work well for us |
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| Author: | Crusader [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
FarmerBlue wrote: Crusader wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. Is there any good prospects in this years draft? There’s maybe half a dozen of them that will go in the first couple of rounds. Then there’s the overagers that would be good for a late/rookie pick. Plenty of options, if we’re desperate. I’d try and get the Big Cohuna, Josh Treacy, out of Freo. If they’re into Jackson AND want to hang on to Lobb… Amiss in the wings… there might be a squeeze. What would he cost and would he come across to sit behind Curnow McKay TDK? If there are some talented talls in the draft I would rather do that. 3 Picks inside Top 30 could work well for us Pretty sure he’s on their rookie list, so the only costs would be time & effort. Maybe a few airfares. |
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| Author: | DesEnglish [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Preuss could get pushed out at GWS if the Grundy rumours are true. Given Pittonet gets injured a bit he could be a reasonable addition |
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| Author: | jpulice1969 [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
our problem is defence this where Austin should be concentrating in 22 draft . (march/Gov) unreliable ,(doc/saad) 27,28 yr old . We have weitering and young ,stocker and kemp our youngster havent really cemented a spot in /out. need to recruit quick defenders. Hawks main fwd is p72 in draft doing well. |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
jpulice1969 wrote: our problem is defence this where Austin should be concentrating in 22 draft . (march/Gov) unreliable ,(doc/saad) 27,28 yr old . We have weitering and young ,stocker and kemp our youngster havent really cemented a spot in /out. need to recruit quick defenders. Hawks main fwd is p72 in draft doing well. Boyd 23 Williams 27 Durdin 26 McDonald 26 Young 23 Weitering 24 Kemp 21 McGovern 27 Marchbank 25 Doc, Saad have 3-4 years left at the top level Says to me our defence is in it's "window" over the next few years. If we can somehow keep them fit it's a heck of a defence |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Crusader wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Crusader wrote: FarmerBlue wrote: Paddycripps wrote: I think the club should try and get the highest pick they can and select a KPP. Preferably a forward. Aside from TDK who is more a ruck than a KPF IMO, we really have no young developing tall forwards on our roster which is not ideal. I just think Charlie and Harry are hitting mid age now and it takes years for talls to develop so we should get a young KPP now (or two) and by the time they've developed Charlie and Harry will be late 20s. Is there any good prospects in this years draft? There’s maybe half a dozen of them that will go in the first couple of rounds. Then there’s the overagers that would be good for a late/rookie pick. Plenty of options, if we’re desperate. I’d try and get the Big Cohuna, Josh Treacy, out of Freo. If they’re into Jackson AND want to hang on to Lobb… Amiss in the wings… there might be a squeeze. What would he cost and would he come across to sit behind Curnow McKay TDK? If there are some talented talls in the draft I would rather do that. 3 Picks inside Top 30 could work well for us Pretty sure he’s on their rookie list, so the only costs would be time & effort. Maybe a few airfares. Bits I have seen he looks good but hardly seems to get a game |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
jpulice1969 wrote: our problem is defence this where Austin should be concentrating in 22 draft . (march/Gov) unreliable ,(doc/saad) 27,28 yr old . We have weitering and young ,stocker and kemp our youngster havent really cemented a spot in /out. need to recruit quick defenders. Hawks main fwd is p72 in draft doing well. I think we have several issues. 1. Consistent run and ball use around wings 2. Fit players 3. Ball use IMO the top 20 of the draft should be a bout picking the BEST player available. Then you start looking at needs. |
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| Author: | cortez [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Time to go to the draft the next few years, we've bought in more than enough mature age players. We don't want to end up like North. They kept buying in mature players at the expense of young draftees thinking they could win a premiership. Dare I say look at them now. |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
cortez wrote: Time to go to the draft the next few years, we've bought in more than enough mature age players. We don't want to end up like North. They kept buying in mature players at the expense of young draftees thinking they could win a premiership. Dare I say look at them now. I'm sure Austin said that's what we will do and I agree. We need to go back to the draft and bring in young talent. I think we will be quiet come trade period. Sholl from Crows is rumoured and won't cost much Maybe a back up tall like Sinclair cheap Then I reckon we will go to draft and have a pick in the pre season |
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| Author: | FarmerBlue [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
DesEnglish wrote: Preuss could get pushed out at GWS if the Grundy rumours are true. Given Pittonet gets injured a bit he could be a reasonable addition Another injury prone player? |
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| Author: | bmaurizio [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
We need another mature durable Ruckman & KPD ideally, hopefully we’re pro active we can’t sit back, list must be improved. |
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| Author: | bmaurizio [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
Also need to draft a quality versatile tall with our 1st rounder as they take 3 to 5 to develop . There’re quite a few quality talls in the top 15 picks / draft 2022. |
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
40 players used this year goes to horrendous injury run but probably good in the longer term for list development Fourth youngest list augurs well also for the future also Ed will go (oldest on our list )Williamson also gone and Newnes you would think is touch and go The biggest problem with the list is those senior players largely brought in from other clubs that over a number of years have long term injury issues McGovern Marchbank Williams Martin and Cunningham This needs to be sorted in some way so that we get team continuirty and whilst people get hysterical here when you mention salary most are on significant salaries taking up a huge slab of the cap so it affects us in recruiting but also maintaining our guns on the list |
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| Author: | DesEnglish [ Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: List Management 2022 |
FarmerBlue wrote: DesEnglish wrote: Preuss could get pushed out at GWS if the Grundy rumours are true. Given Pittonet gets injured a bit he could be a reasonable addition Another injury prone player? I like him. Big and hits hard. Everything we need |
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