The key is getting a great assistant coaching group together.

Then it’s important that they work really well together and not play politics and score points off each other.

He speaks a lot better than I expected.

Looking back over Goodwin’s difficult two seasons that followed the 2018 preliminary final loss in Perth to the 2021 minor premiership and devastating September run to the grand final, is also reminiscent of Richmond at the end of 2016. Then as now both the coach and the board had come under significant pressure. In both cases the coach survived and thrived. In Richmond’s case the president stared down her opponents and, while overseeing a number of changes, strongly backed the coach.

Right or wrong, Bartlett had his doubts about Goodwin. Richmond’s Damien Hardwick went on to become a three-time premiership coach over the next four years. Melbourne’s new president Kate Roffey believes Goodwin has put in place a team capable of doing something similar.

Surprising and a lot more eloquent than Teague.

Enjoyed his interview with Barrett.

Was sacked, but there's a Caroline Wilson article stating that Melbourne's former President who is still a board member tried to remove Goodwin as coach.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/sim ... 58uaa.html



Voss was arguably too green after landing a senior coaching role without doing a coaching apprenticeship for more than two years. Recall Collingwood signing Tony Shaw because they didn't want him to join Carlton as an assistant coach. That was also disastrous. Hope Voss has learnt from his past.

4 clubs did major reviews, part to decide the fate of the coach. All 4 kept their coach, put good people around them, really supported their coach, streamlined their tasks amongst other things and all went on to play in the Grand Final the next year, 3 of them winning, 2 of them creating a dynasty. They kept their struggling coaches, we just sack ours at the drop of a hat. Given our last coach was the best performed since Ratten (bit sad when you think about that) good people around him, a few tweaks in the way we played, especially the want of the players to defend better, and you never know. We won more games than with the last couple of coaches and were rarely ever beaten by over 5 goals. Only would have needed a better culture and commitment, much better support, a much smaller injury list and we could well gone from scoreboard competitive near every week to have played finals. We were right in the hunt with 3 games to go.

Goodwin's last 2 years previous were 17th and 9th, worse overall than Teague's last 2 seasons. After 2018, he won 8 of his next 30, and now 24 1/2 out of the next 32. Amazing what happens when you are supported properly.

Anyway, reading the SEN article today, looks like the penny has dropped. Voss will be heavily supported not hung out to dry like our last 2 coaches. Maybe there's a lesson learnt and maybe this means now we can move on and get back to the club to former glories.

4 clubs did major reviews, part to decide the fate of the coach. All 4 kept their coach, put good people around them, really supported their coach, streamlined their tasks amongst other things and all went on to play in the Grand Final the next year, 3 of them winning, 2 of them creating a dynasty. They kept their struggling coaches, we just sack ours at the drop of a hat. Given our last coach was the best performed since Ratten (bit sad when you think about that) good people around him, a few tweaks in the way we played, especially the want of the players to defend better, and you never know. We won more games than with the last couple of coaches and were rarely ever beaten by over 5 goals. Only would have needed a better culture and commitment, much better support, a much smaller injury list and we could well gone from scoreboard competitive near every week to have played finals. We were right in the hunt with 3 games to go.

Goodwin's last 2 years previous were 17th and 9th, worse overall than Teague's last 2 seasons. After 2018, he won 8 of his next 30, and now 24 1/2 out of the next 32. Amazing what happens when you are supported properly.

Anyway, reading the SEN article today, looks like the penny has dropped. Voss will be heavily supported not hung out to dry like our last 2 coaches. Maybe there's a lesson learnt and maybe this means now we can move on and get back to the club to former glories.

I wouldn't worry about that

Jim i agree with you.

Thing is Teague was a symptom of the internal power struggles we had going. He could have been the one but we had a bit of a decision to make here that meant that timing in the end was a bigger issue. Had we stuck with him next year would have looked like this year. As the turmoil and pressure built he actually coached worse. Thing is one more year with the spectre of Clarkson would have got him, and I think the club probably saw a now or never with Clarkson. We went now and unfortunately its never but the same thing applies. We needed to back trigger in longer than 1 year or move him on.

I dont agree with that decision but I understand it. They weren't convinced he could do it and to be frank neither was I but I thought he could. I get to posture on a forum people in decision making positions dont. They have made a strong choice here irrespective of whether or not you agree with it, and sometimes good people get moved on. I thought Adelaide ditched Sanderson too easily too, but it happens a lot and says very little about the coach moved on and more about the position the clubs need to go in.

I've got the plan to guarantee a GF appearance
Hold a review
back the coach
get some assistants
Works every time...simples

I'm also guessing that, in part. its how that coaches handled the review...how did Teague handle it, the same? Or different?

You know what, none of us @#$%&! know. But keep banging on about Teague's glorious record. Someone might agree.