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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:21 pm 
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Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.


That doesn't make Teague the right man as Head Coach.

Just sayin'. I don't know.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:26 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.


That doesn't make Teague the right man as Head Coach.

Just sayin'. I don't know.


We won't know the full potential of this squad until we get to the injury lists of top four sides meaning zero key players injured.

Zero rookies playing excess 10 games per year
Zero VFL type players getting a game after a handful of decent VFL games
Dropping what seems a good AFL player to the VFL to get better

Until then - just need to keep working and hope our injury list is as good as Bulldogs, Melbourne, Geelong

Richmond have few injuries and cant make the eight.

Talent on the park today wasn't great not even good.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:28 pm 
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We've lost to the bottom team 8 years in a row.

But yeah, injuries....

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:30 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
We've lost to the bottom team 8 years in a row.

But yeah, injuries....



That says it all. I believe you,

it is quite a damning statistic

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:30 pm 
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Positive: possibly gave Hawks the spoon today

Negative: Eddie Maguire banging on about North sticking it up their silvertail rivals. Give us a spell dude, you live in Toorak

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:32 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.

What if Teague loses the players? today looked eerily familiar...


If he loses the players then its curtains for him.

He is too good of a coach to let that happen - too many years in AFL environment.

Take to the bank , Teague is done !! He won’t be coaching this club next year !! So please stop going on about Him

The 3rd qtr typified his reign for the last 2 or so years

He lost to a team that lost by 25 goals only 10 weeks ago and we were incompetent against Them

Everyone get grip and just let that set in for moment

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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.

What if Teague loses the players? today looked eerily familiar...


If he loses the players then its curtains for him.

He is too good of a coach to let that happen - too many years in AFL environment.

Take to the bank , Teague is done !! He won’t be coaching this club next year !! So please stop going on about Him

The 3rd qtr typified his reign for the last 2 or so years

He lost to a team that lost by 25 goals only 10 weeks ago and we were incompetent against Them

Everyone get grip and just let that set in for moment


That fine and in two years time when things havent improved under Clarkson, Lyon or whoever... you can all prattle so he gets the sack too and I will be double delighted because that would mean Sayers will need to step down.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:35 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.


That doesn't make Teague the right man as Head Coach.

Just sayin'. I don't know.


We won't know the full potential of this squad until we get to the injury lists of top four sides meaning zero key players injured.

Zero rookies playing excess 10 games per year
Zero VFL type players getting a game after a handful of decent VFL games
Dropping what seems a good AFL player to the VFL to get better

Until then - just need to keep working and hope our injury list is as good as Bulldogs, Melbourne, Geelong

Richmond have few injuries and cant make the eight.

Talent on the park today wasn't great not even good.


True, but most out there today would be in our best 22 with or without injuries.
A lot of weak efforts today and a lack of structure and cohesion. Mentally and physically weak.

I know, I know, but that implies the last 3 wins are due to weak opposition on the day.

What I'm saying is whilst some of our best 22 are playing for Carlton, we will still struggle against the top 4 teams.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:35 pm 
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When the pressure is on us to perform and take the next step, we can’t do it.
This is truly above the shoulders.

Today we lacked height through the team but if we kicked the early goals, the team confidence would have lifted us through the game.

We are a very mentally weak team but the talent is there. The issue isn’t talent.


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Donstuie wrote:
We've lost to the bottom team 8 years in a row.

But yeah, injuries....


jeebus, thats a damning statistic.

at least we are consistant then......

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:37 pm 
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Positive: possibly gave Hawks the spoon today

Negative: Eddie Maguire banging on about North sticking it up their silvertail rivals. Give us a spell dude, you live in Toorak

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Fair enough comment by Ed.

You know back in the heady 80's when Elliot bought half of the NM shares in his quest to get Wayne Carey.
That plan came undone. He acted like a silvertail and NM have never forgotten it.

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bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.


That doesn't make Teague the right man as Head Coach.

Just sayin'. I don't know.


We won't know the full potential of this squad until we get to the injury lists of top four sides meaning zero key players injured.

Zero rookies playing excess 10 games per year
Zero VFL type players getting a game after a handful of decent VFL games
Dropping what seems a good AFL player to the VFL to get better

Until then - just need to keep working and hope our injury list is as good as Bulldogs, Melbourne, Geelong

Richmond have few injuries and cant make the eight.

Talent on the park today wasn't great not even good.


True, but most out there today would be in our best 22 with or without injuries.
A lot of weak efforts today and a lack of structure and cohesion. Mentally and physically weak.

I know, I know, but that implies the last 3 wins are due to weak opposition on the day.

What I'm saying is whilst some of our best 22 are playing for Carlton, we will still struggle against the top 4 teams.


Pretty hard to play without any key position players without training it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:38 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
When the pressure is on us to perform and take the next step, we can’t do it.
This is truly above the shoulders.

Today we lacked height through the team but if we kicked the early goals, the team confidence would have lifted us through the game.

We are a very mentally weak team but the talent is there. The issue isn’t talent.


i agree. we need someone to get through their heads. do we have a sports psychologist?

we also need a coach who can install a winning culture into them

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:40 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
When the pressure is on us to perform and take the next step, we can’t do it.
This is truly above the shoulders.

Today we lacked height through the team but if we kicked the early goals, the team confidence would have lifted us through the game.

We are a very mentally weak team but the talent is there. The issue isn’t talent.


True

Our boys don't run hard enough, tackle hard enough and spread quick enough.

Mentally weak.

Preseason needs to change a bit. Let Russell take a back seat and work on the team's desire, and mongrel.
I'm sick of watching nice well behaved nancy boys.

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bender wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
We've lost to the bottom team 8 years in a row.

But yeah, injuries....


jeebus, thats a damning statistic.

at least we are consistant then......

I tell a lie. This didn't happen the years we were bottom :donk:

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:44 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Forget comparing Bolton with Teague - Bolton lost the players.

It's not Teague's fault Bolton got himself sacked.


That doesn't make Teague the right man as Head Coach.

Just sayin'. I don't know.


We won't know the full potential of this squad until we get to the injury lists of top four sides meaning zero key players injured.

Zero rookies playing excess 10 games per year
Zero VFL type players getting a game after a handful of decent VFL games
Dropping what seems a good AFL player to the VFL to get better

Until then - just need to keep working and hope our injury list is as good as Bulldogs, Melbourne, Geelong

Richmond have few injuries and cant make the eight.

Talent on the park today wasn't great not even good.


True, but most out there today would be in our best 22 with or without injuries.
A lot of weak efforts today and a lack of structure and cohesion. Mentally and physically weak.

I know, I know, but that implies the last 3 wins are due to weak opposition on the day.

What I'm saying is whilst some of our best 22 are playing for Carlton, we will still struggle against the top 4 teams.


Pretty hard to play without any key position players without training it.


There's something amiss between the ears of too many playing today, with the exception of

Weitering
Walsh
Williams
Betts
Silvagni
TDK
Stocker
Saad
Dow
TDK
Newnes :yikes:

Hey some of the above can work on finding a bit of mongrel at this level, but they were up for the fight.
Once Williams and Betts went down, that's only 9 trying hard. IMO

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:46 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
bender wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
We've lost to the bottom team 8 years in a row.

But yeah, injuries....


jeebus, thats a damning statistic.

at least we are consistant then......

I tell a lie. This didn't happen the years we were bottom :donk:


Come on Don, you're telling the story.

I've already gone to Herald Sun's Mark Robinson with that headline :wink: and collected the cheque.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:47 pm 
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bender wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
When the pressure is on us to perform and take the next step, we can’t do it.
This is truly above the shoulders.

Today we lacked height through the team but if we kicked the early goals, the team confidence would have lifted us through the game.

We are a very mentally weak team but the talent is there. The issue isn’t talent.


i agree. we need someone to get through their heads. do we have a sports psychologist?

we also need a coach who can install a winning culture into them


and instill what it takes to WIN!!! not just compete.

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do we have a sports psychologist?

Tarah Kavanagh.

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Chasing tales when losing clearances like we did today and when the boys tried to make something happen and get a goal back there was no one forward to depend on. Basically there was a luck of trust moving the ball forward unfortunately for us.. North's disposal efficiency today was 80% which is crazy high... they were too good on the day.


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