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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:37 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
Yep both have gone backwards under the present regime and it is an indictment on them as each have talent
Both boys need to take control of careers but surely coaches should be providing the environment for players to develop and thrive


I dont think H, Weitering, Walsh, Owies, Stocker, have complained about the environment at the club.

Even Cripps started in VFL - as did Simmo and Waite no shame playing yougsters in VFL and build their bodies and all round game.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:38 am 
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Out:

Parks, Newnes, Martin, Curnow

In:

SPS, Honey, O'Brien, Murphy (as sub - not because we should but because we will)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:14 pm 
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30 percent crowds at the weekend likely
How will we know the difference and why should we show up when they don’t
Better off not going seeing the first 5 mins on the TV see the opposition waltz into open goals and then know it’s over then tune in about the 3rd quarter late knowing that by fluke there will be a minor rally but not enough to win of course just enough so they can be pleased with themselves and then tune in about 3o
Mins into the last quarter to see us 28 points behind .Then tune in to Press conference where we see a forlorn coach bereft of any ideas talking in a comatose and formulaic way

Reminds me of the last game against Adelaide last year abysmal

Better not to waste time travelling to and fro the ground on the transport to Marvel

BTW go to every Melbourne game every year but Imnot this week I’m beaten


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:23 pm 
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Just need a period of re-adjustment and right list dynamic.

Think we are two years away providing we draft and trade the right players. Nick Austin sure has a task on hand to see through that.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:26 pm 
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rolls are reversed this time and last year crows came out and beat us. Time for pay back (we have no choice) can we see a new game plan can we change things up bucks did it v melb and ferals won.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 3:56 pm 
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My Adel mate cannot wait for this game.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:50 pm 
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Looks like crowds of around 30% will be allowed.
Just because we can go doesn't mean we want to go.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:11 pm 
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Im definitely going - wouldnt miss the Blues winning by 10+ goals for the world


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:24 pm 
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We’ll be lucky to get 20k, including medallion club no’s. What a mess.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:17 pm 
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Carlton has been slammed this week, and deservedly so, so it will be interesting to see how we react.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:44 pm 
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Russell said Plowman's comeback will have to wait another week.

With Parks subbed out after copping a knee in the back, he wont get up by the sound of Russell's tone.

There's no talls to call on other than Kemp, and Williamson.

I don't think its fair to play Williamson back.
Wing where he can use his wheels is all I'd expect.

But then again there's a HF spot to fill with Martin dropped/ managed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:55 pm 
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It's time for Honey.
There's an excuse to name Murphy as 23rd med sub.
Casboult suspended for a week.
The cupboard is bare: just 8 kids left with not 10 VFL games under their belt

Its a great time to be a Carlton supporter

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:57 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Carlton has been slammed this week, and deservedly so, so it will be interesting to see how we react.


I doubt Martin will survive after that.

Williams would want to hide under a rock, he'd want out

Docherty requiring medication for nerves to play.

If any of the above are selected this week after that, they're playing for their reputation.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:02 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Carlton has been slammed this week, and deservedly so, so it will be interesting to see how we react.


As distinct from the past 6 weeks when they’ve also been slammed but they responded with…..

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:14 am 
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kezza wrote:
Carlton has been slammed this week, and deservedly so, so it will be interesting to see how we react.

By 'we' do you mean supporters or the players?

Either way, both will be predictable.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:24 am 
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Walsh wrote:
Im definitely going - wouldnt miss the Blues winning by 10+ goals for the world


I too will be there. Hate watching on TV as can't see what is happening on the ground outside the TV screen. I can get a much clearer picture of what actually is happening by being there.

Newman Weitering Saad
Docherty Jones Stocker
Walsh Cripps Williams
Owies Silvagni Fisher
Betts McKay TDK

Pittonet Kennedy Dow

Ed Fogarty Martin SPS


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 11:25 am 
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Another 22 point loss after being close all day?

Stuffs me how we are always scoreboard competitive (as distinct from actually competitive) while being insipid at the same time. Surely it only takes a decent change in mental attitude (as we have been hoping for for only 20 years) to be a finals side.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:00 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
kezza wrote:
Carlton has been slammed this week, and deservedly so, so it will be interesting to see how we react.


I doubt Martin will survive after that.

Williams would want to hide under a rock, he'd want out

Docherty requiring medication for nerves to play.

If any of the above are selected this week after that, they're playing for their reputation.


I expect Martin will be dropped.
Williams will be read the riot act - with clear message that if he can't lift, he will be dropped.
Docherty told to clean up his possessions or else he'll need to go back (we can't have our captain fumbling like that, and he has been doing that a lot this season).
And eyes will be on Eddie - he has credits in the bank but wouldn't want another game or two with little impact.

I reckon Murphy might get recalled after a reportedly strong performance in the VFL but they might give him another week in the VFL to show it is not a once off.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:03 pm 
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We have 34 fit players to choose from.

However:
Ramsay: 0 games
Durdin: 0 games, just back from injury
Boyd: 0 games, just joined the club
Gibbons - coming back from a hammy.
Kemp: 0 games
Carroll: 0 games

That leaves 28 players.

Cottrell has only *just* been dropped to find form.
Murphy the same.
Do they need at least 2 games in the VFL to press their case?

Martin has been in bad form since he returned, and is due to be dropped.

That leaves 25 players to choose from.

Picking 6 defenders, 6 forwards, 2 rucks and 8 mids:

Williams - Jones - Docherty
Newman - Weitering - Saad
Fisher - Kennedy - SPS
Fogarty - McKay - Honey
Owies - Silvagni - Betts
De Koning - Walsh - Cripps

Pittonet - Stocker - Dow - E. Curnow

Sub from: O'Brien - Williamson - Newnes


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 4:17 pm 
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carntheblues wrote:
Hate watching on TV as can't see what is happening on the ground outside the TV screen.




I don't think you're missing out on much :lol:

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