How's that working for us?
It sounds like your solution is to let the tail wag the dog.
And you can move on the players, it's what the top clubs do all the time.
They either buy into the clubs plan and culture or they're out, something we are yet to do since moving on Robbo and Garlett.
You can't win premierships with hugs and feel good stories.

The best coach I had, I hated him.
But he still got us to win games and be successful.
Your fellow players are your mates.

I think we are travelling to expectations - I said pre season we are 12-6 on the ladder side to go in top eight we need everything to go right for us. I don't blame the supporters having lofty expectations this year albeit to my mind it was unrealistic. We don't have a midfield.

The only thing I can agree with is we don't have a "mature" "developed" midfield.
You can blame the coach on that, not developing the current talent by playing the seniors all the time to solely win games and only wanting to target running HB defenders in last years trade period at a ridiculous cost too.
We are going backwards at a rapid rate and the way we are travelling at the moment, 12 would be an achievement.

Too easy to blame the coach when players never really had the appetite for the contest and making constant skill errors.

They are just high draft picks that havent come on... no biggie its happened to all clubs. Even Richmond, Geelong, Bulldogs and Melbourne.

More positives than negatives when it comes to young players from Owies to Walsh. Club is doing the right thing allowing Honey to develop properly he is improving every game and will likely get his chance in coming weeks.
Club is doing the right thing by Philp,Kemp, Carrol and Durdin let them improve their game and introduce them around experienced players.

This would all be valid except for the fact, Dow and SPS were both playing good football and developing nicely pre Teague.

Maybe - depends how you viewed it. Dow and SPS got more minutes but lets not forget Cripps was dominating the midfield on his own. Teague and probably Dow havent had the luxury.

I think you're forgetting mid 2019 when Teague came on board and straight away moved the old boys back into the middle to solely win games.
It was a luxury he had but he chose the short term option and now it's come back at him 2 fold.

Wow Teague is really in a bad spot.

Win games - sack
Lose games - sack

Wow Teague is really in a bad spot.

Win games - sack
Lose games - sack

We seem to forget 2019 wasn't long ago and we were a total rabble.
We also seem to forget 2020 the players were in hub life and missed out on the facilities at Princes Park under a new coach.
We also seem to forget we played all top four teams within six weeks with a horrid injury list and midfield that lacks elite talent - past two games was a drop in morale more than anything and the boys need a break but need to lift second half of year. Doesn't discount the fact the midfield is full of turn over merchants where half cant tackle kicking the ball bllindly rather than finishing plays. We can't compete against top eight midfield luckily our forward line and backline is as close to elite as you can get.

We can't compete against top eight midfield luckily our forward line and backline is as close to elite as you can get.

Actually, it's eerily like 2019. Up until a couple of weeks before Bolt's got sacked, we were in pretty much every game. We lost to GC by point, hawks by 5 points. A lack of self belief cost us wins against Port and Swans. In fact, it the ladder was based on quarters won, we would have been in the 8. Then the bottom fell out. We put in 2 or 3 horrible games and Bolt's was gone.
Only differences were we were a young and developing team. Now all those young guys who were developing have regressed under Teague. Granted the bottom has fallen out yet, but I get the feeling that is only a matter of time.
Up until yesterday, I was on the fence and thought if we could get Teague better help, he may be ok. Now, I am more convinced than ever. He has to go.

Our forward line isn't closer to elite.

Not sure our backline is elite either