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| Author: | The_Cranium [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Donstuie wrote: In addition to the effect on the team, it was disappointing that Harry missed so many that would've put even him further ahead in the Coleman. Takes me back to the Fev days except Fev didn't miss the ones Harry does. We were shit then too |
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| Author: | diesel_85 [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
One word for me Predictable In a game against a top 8 side and in it up to our eyeballs at 3 qtr time. The first 6-8 mins of the last quarter were vfl standard. Only one side was ever going to win that game. So bloody predictable. Rope us in and spit us out. I honestly do not know why i keep giving my heart and weekends to this club. |
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| Author: | Crippa [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
The_Cranium wrote: Donstuie wrote: In addition to the effect on the team, it was disappointing that Harry missed so many that would've put even him further ahead in the Coleman. Takes me back to the Fev days except Fev didn't miss the ones Harry does. We were shit then too There is a rumour going around that there was a time long ago when we weren’t shit 
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| Author: | dadadadada [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Staggered why Casboult played. Were we a tall short ??? Very top heavy. Parks would have been better down back simply from his will to support team mates. The opposition move the ball too easily through the arcs which places our defence under enormous pressure and easier for the opposition to hit up leads as the ball carrier has a clear line of vision to who they want to pass to. Pointless getting Andrew Russell but then recruiting so many players that can't run. Picks 3, 6 and 10 in the ressies is a real worry. |
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| Author: | Donstuie [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Crippa wrote: There is a rumour going around that there was a time long ago when we weren’t shit 
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| Author: | Teddy Hopkins [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
One or all three of Parks, Honey and Dow may have been useful for Casbault, Murphy, and Gibbons. But we say similar every week. |
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| Author: | kezza [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
grrofunger wrote: Fox highlighting it now, really pissed me off at the time Mills punching Stocker in the balls right in front of the umpire and we didn't receive a free kick reversal Not enough heat on Buddy for this high bump on Newman either Tom Browne just brought up the Buddy bump, he expects him to be cleared. Of course he will be. |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Menzel_Mayhem wrote: Teague Train last stop, 2021 Unfortunately coaching changes have done nothing in 20 years. Has to be other reasons. We’ve had the worst list in the league for much of the past 20 years. We’ve gone through a full rebuild now and a chock full of talented players. No excuses. The buck stops with the coach Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro We still don’t have enough good players and the keepers we do have haven’t played together long enough either. We are 13th of the sides above us who are we better than list wise? |
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| Author: | frank dardew [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Of course he will be cleared guy leads charmed existence and Plowman gets 2 for playing the ball |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Teddy Hopkins wrote: One or all three of Parks, Honey and Dow may have been useful for Casbault, Murphy, and Gibbons. But we say similar every week. At least Murph was dropped to medical sub. Gibbons has been dropped but given a reprieve for some reason after coming on as sub v Melbourne. Not sure if Dow was even fit, he didn’t play vfl last week. |
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| Author: | Juddy&theKruezers [ Sun May 30, 2021 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
frank dardew wrote: Of course he will be cleared guy leads charmed existence and Plowman gets 2 for playing the ball Have to get Buddy to a thousand goals Frank … |
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| Author: | kezza [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Watched the entire game knowing exactly how this game would play out. What is so frustrating is we look at other clubs have done in recent years rebuilding their lists. Most have gone past us without doing a complete rebuild. We were told it was necessary so we would have sustained success. As a club with so many early draft picks we should not be in this position. SOS the saviour. Yeah right. |
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| Author: | Paddycripps [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Great rebuild. It has taken us to 13th. |
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| Author: | jim [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Adam Chatfield wrote: jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Menzel_Mayhem wrote: Teague Train last stop, 2021 Unfortunately coaching changes have done nothing in 20 years. Has to be other reasons. We’ve had the worst list in the league for much of the past 20 years. We’ve gone through a full rebuild now and a chock full of talented players. No excuses. The buck stops with the coach Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro We still don’t have enough good players and the keepers we do have haven’t played together long enough either. We are 13th of the sides above us who are we better than list wise? Ground zero rebuilds are too tough. Too many spots that have to be covered and hard to do as draft picks can be flukey. Hence we still have a few holes. Got the talls spot but the mid not so good. We ruined a couple early in their careers by asking too much of them. Thing is we don't get hammered. Only two losses over 30pts under Teague so far, which is better than 4 wins from 40 and 100pt losses we had before. We are very competitive against everyone but can't go from entertaining losers to winners when it matters. We are bad lapses away from being a decent team but we can't seem to stop them. Players aren't simply hungry enough. Losers mentality, happens after 20 years, and seem happy to be highly competitive only. |
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| Author: | Humpers [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Why oh why did we select both Casboult and Pittonet? |
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| Author: | Paddycripps [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Honey should be in the team. He's got more toughness, speed and talent than all of Fogarty, Owies and Gibbons put together. According to Russell Dow was fit. He should have played to give Walsh a chop out. Teague doesn't like playing too many kids because he thinks the lightbulb moment is around the corner as are finals. Well how's that going David? Time to piss Teague off. His win loss ratio is getting worse every year, he has no idea how important defense is, and he has failed to get this group of players to believe they're better than the lowest rung teams. |
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| Author: | Paddycripps [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
jim wrote: Adam Chatfield wrote: jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Menzel_Mayhem wrote: Teague Train last stop, 2021 Unfortunately coaching changes have done nothing in 20 years. Has to be other reasons. We’ve had the worst list in the league for much of the past 20 years. We’ve gone through a full rebuild now and a chock full of talented players. No excuses. The buck stops with the coach Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro We still don’t have enough good players and the keepers we do have haven’t played together long enough either. We are 13th of the sides above us who are we better than list wise? Ground zero rebuilds are too tough. Too many spots that have to be covered and hard to do as draft picks can be flukey. Hence we still have a few holes. Got the talls spot but the mid not so good. We ruined a couple early in their careers by asking too much of them. Thing is we don't get hammered. Only two losses over 30pts under Teague so far, which is better than 4 wins from 40 and 100pt losses we had before. We are very competitive against everyone but can't go from entertaining losers to winners when it matters. We are bad lapses away from being a decent team but we can't seem to stop them. Players aren't simply hungry enough. Losers mentality, happens after 20 years, and seem happy to be highly competitive only. In the end you can sack one coach and you can't sack 40 players Teague has failed to get the most out of this list There is ample talent. We need a better coach to get the most out of it Martin, Saad, Williams, they're all underperforming. The players need to be inspired |
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| Author: | Adam Chatfield [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
jim wrote: Adam Chatfield wrote: jake_h03 wrote: jim wrote: Menzel_Mayhem wrote: Teague Train last stop, 2021 Unfortunately coaching changes have done nothing in 20 years. Has to be other reasons. We’ve had the worst list in the league for much of the past 20 years. We’ve gone through a full rebuild now and a chock full of talented players. No excuses. The buck stops with the coach Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro We still don’t have enough good players and the keepers we do have haven’t played together long enough either. We are 13th of the sides above us who are we better than list wise? Ground zero rebuilds are too tough. Too many spots that have to be covered and hard to do as draft picks can be flukey. Hence we still have a few holes. Got the talls spot but the mid not so good. We ruined a couple early in their careers by asking too much of them. Thing is we don't get hammered. Only two losses over 30pts under Teague so far, which is better than 4 wins from 40 and 100pt losses we had before. We are very competitive against everyone but can't go from entertaining losers to winners when it matters. We are bad lapses away from being a decent team but we can't seem to stop them. Players aren't simply hungry enough. Losers mentality, happens after 20 years, and seem happy to be highly competitive only. Yep could take a long time to change the mentality, guys like Doch and cripps have been losing for so long I don’t even know if they believe we can win these type of games. However we just have to stick at it, the club and players punishment is: A) we still play every week to win B) no more scorched earth rebuilds giving people an excuse to lose We may go nowhere for a decade but it’s the only way we will turn the ship around. |
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| Author: | Navy One [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Isaac Heeney ...... I reckon he could find space in men's room cubicle. |
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| Author: | grrofunger [ Sun May 30, 2021 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: R11: Sydney v Carlton (Post Match Discussion) |
Paddycripps wrote: In the end you can sack one coach and you can't sack 40 players Teague has failed to get the most out of this list There is ample talent. We need a better coach to get the most out of it Martin, Saad, Williams, they're all underperforming. The players need to be inspired Those 3 would all be thinking ...what the @#$%&! i have walked in to here.... |
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