yep for me again, like a repeat rinse cycle, too many players who do not get enough of the ball. Until we rectify we will lose a lot more than we win
+Casboult - really? Why?
+ Gibbons - really? Why?

Teague demoralises you on selection and then rubs your nose in it on game day.

I agree we should not have played the 3 talls but it has nothing to do with how you clear the ball out from a behind. In fact if you kick the ball to the advantage of a tall this may have actually helped. Yes around the ground playing 3 talls was crazy especially when one was Casboult, he can't bend over and offers nothing if he cant mark the ball - lost his marking ability.

Agree about the intrinsic motivation Jim...but...what has Teague done to drive standards and build culture for those players who don't appear to be intrinsically motivated week after week???

Don’t worry, he’s waiting for the lightbulb moment! It’s coming! Any week now!!


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Carlton just don't know how to win. I watched the whole game today, you guys were the better team till 3/4 time but you never got the lead you deserved off general play. Not sure how Carlton fix this but just like the Dogs game which I also watched you were all over them but just couldn't capitalize, then the ball goes down the other end and the oppo undo all your hard work. You have some genuine elite players now but the development of the role players seems shithouse and the gameplan IMO sucks. I don't see a huge difference between Carltons list and the lists of the top 6 clubs, the problem you rely on individual brilliance each week to get you wins against anyone outside the bottom four and a list like this shouldn't need that.

You need to fu** off all the assistants that have been there longer than 1-2 year and get some fresh ideas in the box. Teams score way too easily against Carlton for a side that has a good back 6 and you still have to work so hard to score yourselves.

I'd be looking to get some hard arse old coach into the box to wake the catatonic bastards up - what's mark williams doing?

I’ve come to the conclusion, it’s not worth highlighting any thoughts any longer.
This club lost it’s sole /way years ago.

Nothing to see here .... We had 3 goes at trying to get Plowman off. Buddy should be fine



There'll be the old ..... "Newman wasn't concussed" ruling

Bullshit nothing. List drops alot after the top end of it.

Facts are the same. We lack drive, the will to win and real motivation. Change the coach and the issues are the same. It's not about talent. We actually play great footy for long periods against the very best too, then have those mighty lapses, plus we shit our pants against good sides, as we did later last year when finals beckoned. Issue is above the shoulders. Why do we blow 27pt leads against the top side in the last qtr. Brilliant then collapsed. Today, right in it and fell apart at the start of the last qtr. Happened a few times in the last couple of years. That's above the shoulders. We don't have a great list, good at the top, drops out at the bottom, we are very, very competitive but can't take that step to become winners. Bad lapses and shitting ourselves when it matters is the only reason we are not in the 8, and didn't make it last year. We need more to go further but that would be a start.

Agree about the intrinsic motivation Jim...but...what has Teague done to drive standards and build culture for those players who don't appear to be intrinsically motivated week after week???

it hurts to watch that sort of shit unfold - moreso because you sense/know it is going to happen.
it hurts more to watch Teague and the 'coaching' staff sitting mute in the box as it unfolds - like they're the only ones on the planet who would expect it to happen.

there's a lack of accountability - players just don't work hard enough without the ball - Setterfield and Gibbons are a fine example but there's plenty more and they get picked each week. So lack of work ethic has no consequences.

I'd be looking to get some hard arse old coach into the box to wake the catatonic bastards up - what's mark williams doing?

Season is shot so I'd throw Stocker and Dow into the centre and have Curnow as a run with/ shut down only. Get rid of Pittonet, Casboult, Cottrell and GIbbons etc and kick Setterfield's arse and get some opportunity into SPS (in the guts) Honey and Parks and @#$%&! it even O' Brien and @#$%&! it squared, even Durdin and McDonald. I'm past caring if they are "ready". Play TDK as a single ruck and wing it roving to their taps - which we should be doing at any rate.

Teague demoralises you on selection and then rubs your nose in it on game day.

8 players with 9 disposals or less
8 players with 1 tackle or less
12 players didn't win a clearance

To much left to to few



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Is that why our foot skills are so poor? Surely they can afford to buy a new one?