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missnaut wrote:

I think Hartigan has form.

First offence, according to afl.con.au.

CK95 wrote:

So Plowman is meant to just hear footsteps & pull out I guess. Jesus Christ.

The only footsteps were Plowman's as he shoulder charged into O'Meara's back and head with no eyes for the ball while O'Meara was in the process of taking the mark. If O'Meara had done the same thing to Plowman, he'd be called all kind of dogs and then some.

BUt I'm not sure why Hartigan got three. I thought elbows were okay nowadays. Probably just trying to defend himself.

The thing that works against Plowman is that he braced for contact rather than tried to spoil.

billy_bongo wrote:

missnaut wrote:

I think Hartigan has form.

First offence, according to afl.con.au.

Didn't he do the same to Tom Hawkins?

Carlton apparently arguing that another angle showed he tried to spoil.

I don't mind him getting cited. A player that was vulnerable ended up concussed.
As long as he gets a fair hearing at the tribunal, I have no complaints either way.

... it’s refreshing that for once the Hawthorn bloke was the one to come off second best in a collision. How many times have one of those pricks run into our guys and broken bones?

Is Plowman facing 3 weeks if the appeal is unsuccessful?

Carlton v Hawthorn

9 Samuel Walsh (CARL)
8 Sam Docherty (CARL)
4 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
3 Zac Williams (CARL)
3 Tom Mitchell (HAW)
2 Kyle Hartigan (HAW)
1 Blake Hardwick (HAW)

- Walsh has polled in all but two games this season.
- Docherty has polled in the last three games.
- First votes of the season for Williams.

Effes wrote:

So how did Curnow win the parko medal after the game? Is that based on parko selection?

Author:	ScottSaunders2 [ Mon May 24, 2021 8:27 am ]
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if the plowman & holman incident to get two weeks ... (neither of them should face anything) Hartigan should have gone 20 weeks ... ffs ... as it is, i think hartigan 3 weeks is right (perhaps should have been 4 to make a statement) but the two weeks for plowman and holman is our game gone made.

Author:	missnaut [ Mon May 24, 2021 8:41 am ]
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billy_bongo wrote: missnaut wrote: I think Hartigan has form. First offence, according to afl.con.au. Didn't he do the same to Tom Hawkins?

Author:	buzzaaaah [ Mon May 24, 2021 9:00 am ]
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The thing that works against Plowman is that he braced for contact rather than tried to spoil.

Author:	sinbagger [ Mon May 24, 2021 9:34 am ]
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billy_bongo wrote: CK95 wrote: So Plowman is meant to just hear footsteps & pull out I guess. Jesus Christ. The only footsteps were Plowman's as he shoulder charged into O'Meara's back and head with no eyes for the ball while O'Meara was in the process of taking the mark. If O'Meara had done the same thing to Plowman, he'd be called all kind of dogs and then some. BUt I'm not sure why Hartigan got three. I thought elbows were okay nowadays. Probably just trying to defend himself. I agree, as I posted in another thread Plowman never at any stage played the ball, he just gave an unsuspecting player a hip and shoulder which is just stupid.

Author:	sinbagger [ Mon May 24, 2021 9:35 am ]
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buzzaaaah wrote: The thing that works against Plowman is that he braced for contact rather than tried to spoil. I think you’ll find that that is the on,y thing that matters, if he’d played the ball he wouldn’t have been reported.

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Author:	billy_bongo [ Mon May 24, 2021 9:44 am ]
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missnaut wrote: billy_bongo wrote: missnaut wrote: I think Hartigan has form. First offence, according to afl.con.au. Didn't he do the same to Tom Hawkins? Sorry, yes, afl.com was wrong. According to The Age, he has been done before . Copped a fine.

Author:	MPH78 [ Mon May 24, 2021 10:18 am ]
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I’ll need to be convinced that Plowman's was even a reportable incident. Same with Holman.

Author:	Effes [ Mon May 24, 2021 11:14 am ]
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Sam Edmund @Sammy__Edmund · 38s CARLTON will challenge Lachie Plowman's two-match ban at the AFL tribunal. Plowman was charged with rough conduct for a collision with Jaeger O'Meara that was assessed as careless, high impact & high contact. You wouldn't think it will be the only hearing.

Author:	buzzaaaah [ Mon May 24, 2021 11:29 am ]
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Carlton apparently arguing that another angle showed he tried to spoil. I don't mind him getting cited. A player that was vulnerable ended up concussed. As long as he gets a fair hearing at the tribunal, I have no complaints either way.

Author:	Donstuie [ Mon May 24, 2021 11:42 am ]
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I of course don’t wish injury on anyone and know full well how scary concussion can be (I saw my nephew recently concussed). But one thing not mentioned re: Plowman bump is that it’s refreshing that for once the Hawthorn bloke was the one to come off second best in a collision. How many times have one of those pricks run into our guys and broken bones?

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon May 24, 2021 12:26 pm ]
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buzzaaaah wrote: Carlton apparently arguing that another angle showed he tried to spoil. I don't mind him getting cited. A player that was vulnerable ended up concussed. As long as he gets a fair hearing at the tribunal, I have no complaints either way. Looks like his focus was the spoil and simultaneously crashed and braced. Free to play.

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon May 24, 2021 12:27 pm ]
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buzzaaaah wrote: Carlton apparently arguing that another angle showed he tried to spoil. I don't mind him getting cited. A player that was vulnerable ended up concussed. As long as he gets a fair hearing at the tribunal, I have no complaints either way. Did OMera get concussed?

Author:	bondiblue [ Mon May 24, 2021 12:28 pm ]
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Donstuie wrote: ... it’s refreshing that for once the Hawthorn bloke was the one to come off second best in a collision. How many times have one of those pricks run into our guys and broken bones? Yes it is. Hope the tables have turned.

Author:	kezza [ Mon May 24, 2021 2:53 pm ]
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Is Plowman facing 3 weeks if the appeal is unsuccessful?

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Author:	GMCbris [ Mon May 24, 2021 2:59 pm ]
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kezza wrote: Is Plowman facing 3 weeks if the appeal is unsuccessful? I think its just $10k out of the soft cap

Author:	Effes [ Mon May 24, 2021 4:51 pm ]
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Carlton v Hawthorn 9 Samuel Walsh (CARL) 8 Sam Docherty (CARL) 4 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 3 Zac Williams (CARL) 3 Tom Mitchell (HAW) 2 Kyle Hartigan (HAW) 1 Blake Hardwick (HAW) - Walsh has polled in all but two games this season. - Docherty has polled in the last three games. - First votes of the season for Williams.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Mon May 24, 2021 5:25 pm ]
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Cripps received 4 votes off 1 coach and none from the other

Author:	Juanita Jones [ Mon May 24, 2021 6:08 pm ]
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Effes wrote: Carlton v Hawthorn 9 Samuel Walsh (CARL) 8 Sam Docherty (CARL) 4 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 3 Zac Williams (CARL) 3 Tom Mitchell (HAW) 2 Kyle Hartigan (HAW) 1 Blake Hardwick (HAW) - Walsh has polled in all but two games this season. - Docherty has polled in the last three games. - First votes of the season for Williams. So how did Curnow win the parko medal after the game? Is that based on parko selection?

Author:	CK95 [ Mon May 24, 2021 6:50 pm ]
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Vintage Parko if so

Author:	SurreyBlue [ Mon May 24, 2021 9:49 pm ]
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Juanita Jones wrote: Effes wrote: Carlton v Hawthorn 9 Samuel Walsh (CARL) 8 Sam Docherty (CARL) 4 Patrick Cripps (CARL) 3 Zac Williams (CARL) 3 Tom Mitchell (HAW) 2 Kyle Hartigan (HAW) 1 Blake Hardwick (HAW) - Walsh has polled in all but two games this season. - Docherty has polled in the last three games. - First votes of the season for Williams. So how did Curnow win the parko medal after the game? Is that based on parko selection? Mind boggling.